why the police might of moved the body.

[Alias]

Did you see the 2002 court transcript ?

There is no suggestion that the police pulled Sheila's legs. So who did ?

I don´t know. Sheila´s body was moved around - I can´t say it was Jeremy who did it. Could have been the EP. They wouldn´t be eager to admit to it, would they?

[Adam]

At 03.48 the three occupants – Sergeant Bews and PCs Myall and Saxby – reached Pages Lane, the private road leading to White House Farm. A few minutes later, Bamber arrived at the scene. The three officers were parked a short distance into the lane; Bamber pulled up behind them and left his silver Astra to speak with them. After identifying himself, he was asked to clarify what his father had managed to tell him before being abruptly cut off. The young man reiterated that Nevill, sounding very distressed, had asked him to come over at once because his sister Sheila had gone crazy and got hold of a gun. 

Does not seem like 60. Are you including the raid team ?

[Adam]

To be fair an additional patrol car from Chelmsford arrived at the scene later.

[Adam]

I don´t know. Sheila´s body was moved around - I can´t say it was Jeremy who did it. Could have been the EP. They wouldn´t be eager to admit to it, would they?

Why an earth would the police pull Sheila's legs before the crime scene photographer arrived ?

[nugnug]

how do we know it would of happend before he arrived.

[scipio_usmc]

how do we know it would of happend before he arrived.

You need to be more precise in who you are suggesting did what. We can't tell what you are tlaking about with just pronouns. 

[grahameb]

Why an earth would the police pull Sheila's legs before the crime scene photographer arrived ?

CPR

[lookout]

CPR

I'll go along with that,Grahame.

[grahameb]

I'll go along with that,Grahame.

Whatever anyone says, that is the sign that someone has attempted CPR on Sheila. Another sign of course is the blood running out of the mouth. If there is pooled blood in the mouth and you apply CPR then that is what would happen. What happened after that? She was put on her side in the recovery position by someone who was trying to stop the blood going into her airway. That is why there is a lot of blood on her left side. If she was found on her back then you wouldn't get the blood pooling on her left side and under her armpit. These are classic signs of someone applying CPR and then turning her on her left side.
I conctantly wonder why more people have not noticed this? But of course we do know don't we? Because of all the police statements which say that the position in which she was photographed was the polition in which she was found.
It doesn't matter about the questions of how and why. It is just observing the body as it is.

[lookout]

Whatever anyone says, that is the sign that someone has attempted CPR on Sheila. Another sign of course is the blood running out of the mouth. If there is pooled blood in the mouth and you apply CPR then that is what would happen. What happened after that? She was put on her side in the recovery position by someone who was trying to stop the blood going into her airway. That is why there is a lot of blood on her left side. If she was found on her back then you wouldn't get the blood pooling on her left side and under her armpit. These are classic signs of someone applying CPR and then turning her on her left side.
I conctantly wonder why more people have not noticed this? But of course we do know don't we? Because of all the police statements which say that the position in which she was photographed was the polition in which she was found.
It doesn't matter about the questions of how and why. It is just observing the body as it is.

Grahame,,I wouldn't mind betting that what was heard on tape,was Sheila spluttering,,especially if she was on her back. That alone would prompt them to go in.

[nugnug]

You need to be more precise in who you are suggesting did what. We can't tell what you are tlaking about with just pronouns.

its impossble to be precise as it could of happend at any time before it was photographed.

remember the title of this thread is might not did.

[lookout]

Why an earth would the police pull Sheila's legs before the crime scene photographer arrived ?

EP have been pulling our legs for long enough now !

[nugnug]

there simple answer to that so he could get her legs in the photograph.

[Jan]

I did not see it. Would be good to see the source.

Thought most of the officers were outside, comforting a sobbing Jeremy.

The way people speak, it is as if  there were hundreds of officers outside WHF. There was only a handful.

Adam you have seen the source before .


Question 1- if you were on the jury and you had seen a photo where it looks like the scene of how the victim was holding the gun looked staged and it was indicated this was because it was in fact muder and not suicide - would it affect your judgment on the case?

Question 2 - if later on the police admitted they had moved the hand in order to take photos and that was not the exact original positon of the gun and hand as found on entry - would that affect your opinion ?

A simple yes or no will do.

This is only to point out how small details can be so vital. Nothing more.

[nugnug]

well the jury be under the impression they were looking actually photo not a staged one.

so if the body was moved it would mean the jury had been misled.