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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #75 on: June 15, 2014, 07:09:PM »
how does a man know so much about womans fingenails

having never varnished my nails and tried to bash someones head in with a riffle butt i wouldn't know weather it was true or not.

im very surprised that anyone can say for certain.
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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #76 on: June 15, 2014, 07:14:PM »
If they ar elong they would break from grasping a rifle extremely tight and repeatedly striking something very hard with it. unless weearing gloves it also causes rubs to the skin of the hands including blisters.  Particuarly if a sharp piece of wood breaks off while your hand is on it.

That is a guess on your part.

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Both were upwards shots. I don´t think it happened as you describe it. You can throw a hissy fit all you want.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #77 on: June 15, 2014, 07:17:PM »
how does a man so much about womans fingenails


He doesn't, Nugs. He just doesn't have the humility to allow that someone other than he can be right..................even about things which maybe of no concern to him.

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« Reply #78 on: June 15, 2014, 07:19:PM »
well unless hes grown his fingernails long varnished them and tried to bash someones head in with a gun he couldn't know.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #79 on: June 15, 2014, 07:20:PM »
how does a man know so much about womans fingenails

having never varnished my nails and tried to bash someones head in with a riffle butt i wouldn't know weather it was true or not.

im very surprised that anyone can say for certain.

Maybe he runs a nail salon beside his careers as lawyer, historian, elite soldier, psychiatrist and sooth sayer?

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #80 on: June 15, 2014, 07:23:PM »
how does a man so much about womans fingenails

Because when women break their nails they bitch and moan about it.  Hence having plenty of experience with complaints about broken nails from women using a cash register, typing, while using shovels and other outdoor tools and also softball bats and the like.

If nails break while tightly gripping a bat and hitting a ball then tightly gripping a rifle and bashing a head in is going to definitely cause problems.  If her nails were not long it would not be an issue but they were long. 

Blisters and abrasions caused by using an object in the manner the rifle was used is a universal concern to males and females alike unless they have calluses and the breaking of the stock cutting the hand likewise a universal concern. Gloves are the only thing which eliminate such injuries. 

Gloves would not help protect her nails though.  At any rate no gloves were found that Sheila could have used and why would she have used gloves if she had in fact gone into a rage as claimed? 

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« Reply #81 on: June 15, 2014, 07:25:PM »
there have been hundreds of female killer throghout history im betting a few of them had long nails.


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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #82 on: June 15, 2014, 07:26:PM »
In fact, Sheila´s fingernails were not all that long.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #83 on: June 15, 2014, 07:26:PM »
well unless hes grown his fingernails long varnished them and tried to bash someones head in with a gun he couldn't know.


Each to his own. We mustn't be as judgemental as he is, Nugs ;)

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #84 on: June 15, 2014, 07:34:PM »
That is a guess on your part.

Both were upwards shots. I don´t think it happened as you describe it. You can throw a hissy fit all you want.

I don't throw fits ever.

The angle of the first shot is not steep. Someone can easily crouch a little holding the rifle at a slight upward angle to cause such shot. 

You seem to be suggesting someone standing could only angle the rifle down which is not true it acna be angled either way or be a level shot and since the goal was to make it look like a suicide they would intentionally angle it up.

He didn't angle the first shot much so nearly enough for it to go into her head but instead her vertebrae.  Hence why he needed a second shot.  With the Veretebrae broken her head could flop further backwards though so it wa snot a total loss.  So he bent her head back so that the second shot would be delivered into her head. This shot was a contact shot so that the gun could actually hold the head in the position he wanted as he shot. 

Trying to pretend such is not possible won't make it so.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #85 on: June 15, 2014, 07:38:PM »
I am not pretending anything. I happen to find the way you imagine this happening very unlikely and contrived.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #86 on: June 15, 2014, 07:41:PM »
In fact, Sheila´s fingernails were not all that long.

They are long by the standard of a man and the standard of whether they would be damaged while gripping something tightly as it is used to beat something extremely hard repeatedly.
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« Reply #87 on: June 15, 2014, 07:49:PM »
i tell you what why dont we do a reconstruction ill play sheila you can be nevile.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #88 on: June 15, 2014, 07:52:PM »
They are long by the standard of a man and the standard of whether they would be damaged while gripping something tightly as it is used to beat something extremely hard repeatedly.

You wouldn´t use your fingernails if you were gripping something so thin sized as a rifle; that would take the power out of your grip.
I don´t have a rifle, but just tried it with a broom (which is a little thicker than a rifle) - I don´t use the nails at all. My fingernails are about the same length as what I can see on Sheila.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #89 on: June 17, 2014, 12:40:PM »
If they ar elong they would break from grasping a rifle extremely tight and repeatedly striking something very hard with it. unless weearing gloves it also causes rubs to the skin of the hands including blisters.  Particuarly if a sharp piece of wood breaks off while your hand is on it.

Blisters - from one attack - really?

This comment and the one about the nails is suppostion and nothing more.

Anne had a good look at Jeremy  for any sign of injury and her eagles eyes spotted nothing.