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Offline scipio_usmc

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« Reply #195 on: June 16, 2014, 02:11:AM »
What about the small, apparently blood free rug under Sheila? What is the explanation for that? In both scenarios, Sheila did it or Jeremy did it, it makes little sense and is hard to explain.

No one knows what those rugs were used for everyday let alone whether they were used for anything like dragging Sheila's butt. She was dragged flat not shot eactly where whe was left lying so the fact there was no blood on the rugs is not surprising.  The only blood after she was dragged leaked near her head.  I have no idea if they were used to drag her butt, wrap around her feet so no marks woudl be left on her as she was dragged or if they had no relation at all to the murders.

They certainly have no bearing at all on who committed the murders.

 
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« Reply #196 on: June 16, 2014, 10:18:AM »
 If you were to read about the miserable life that Sheila endured,,then maybe,,just maybe, you'd be able to make some headway,instead of spouting your potty theories about how Jeremy " killed his family ".

 

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« Reply #197 on: June 17, 2014, 12:42:AM »
If you were to read about the miserable life that Sheila endured,,then maybe,,just maybe, you'd be able to make some headway,instead of spouting your potty theories about how Jeremy " killed his family ".

I read about her life and she had less a reaosn to kill anyone than Jeremy did.

More importantly the evidence proves she can't have killed herself, and obviously is not th eone who beat Nevill because she would have broken at least 1 nail and gotten his blood on her in the process.  The notion she killed everyone without getting any evidence on her is absurd.

That is what a raitonal person looks at the evidence not trying to blame someone who has mental issues despite no evidence they did anything.

 
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« Reply #198 on: June 17, 2014, 09:10:AM »
I read about her life and she had less a reaosn to kill anyone than Jeremy did.

More importantly the evidence proves she can't have killed herself, and obviously is not th eone who beat Nevill because she would have broken at least 1 nail and gotten his blood on her in the process.  The notion she killed everyone without getting any evidence on her is absurd.

That is what a raitonal person looks at the evidence not trying to blame someone who has mental issues despite no evidence they did anything.




Sheila did NOT have " mental issues ",,her mother did !!

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« Reply #199 on: June 17, 2014, 09:48:AM »
 Sheila was driven by a manipulative and harsh woman who had no understanding of teens growing up.
Because of the control that June had over Sheila,,it created the paranoia that she developed,,and forced Sheila into the life that she had through Junes high expectations of her.
Sheila became a slave to her mothers' religious rantings,,and those poor children were drawn into Junes' psychotic blasts of religion each time they visited WHF. This is why they didn't like being there. The only highlight of their visit was when Uncle Jeremy took them on the tractor.

As I've already pointed out,,Sheilas' condition leading up to the tragedy,was critical,,meaning that her temper was at an all time high,,which gave her the strength to confront both her parents that night.
Anyone who has a temper would NOT find it difficult to kill someone on the spur of the moment,,as it has been done and most have shown remorse after realising what they'd done,,but Sheila had so many issues with her mother,,that her fury would have got the better of her and her mind snapped.


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« Reply #200 on: June 17, 2014, 10:47:AM »
 Sheila was a mixed-up girl growing up,,and because she had no guidance during her formative years,,had no idea who she was as a person. This is why she'd felt that she never " fitted in " when she first attended school. If June never went into any kind of discussion regarding the adoption,,then neither would she enter any other type of conversation concerning life in general.

I'm no professional when it comes to psychiatric illnesses,but Sheila to my mind was a normal girl of her years with no disturbances,mentally.
It was her mother who made her ill and drove her to do what she did.
June was sick. I don't ever remember her having friends,apart from acquaintances from the church,,but not a real friend as we know. Even the children never spoke about their " best friends " as children do.

This WASN'T a normal household at all with a lot of paper covering a lot of cracks. Jeremy had managed to shrug off his mothers' condition by hiding behind his arrogant outlook which stayed with him through growing up. That was his safety-valve,,whereas Sheila was more vulnerable because of being a nervy type girl,always trying to please her mother as best she could in case June threw a wobbly.

It wasn't to last with Sheila,,as bottled-up emotions started showing themselves in all sorts of ways,,and that's when the rot set in between mother and daughter,as Sheila rebelled against her stifled life with its stifled emotions. Sheila would have benefitted from going into the middle of the field and screaming,rather than to listen to her mothers' rants,which she bottled up inside her. To be brought up without emotion is dangerous,,and it's because Sheila couldn't let go of them is what made her ill.
She didn't need medicating------------just a complete change of scenery away from her mother and the life that she was forced into.

I will continue to say that the tragedy was brought on by mother and daughter and that Jeremy IS telling the truth.
How would the relatives know anything,,not seeing the family,or knowing about them ? How easy it was for them,EP and the thousands of others,to jump to conclusions !!