The Pargeter rifle

[nugnug]

well that would be the nautrul assumption on entering the scene.

they wouldn't of required jeremy to tell them that happened.

[nugnug]

It wasn't so much that,nugs,,as it was licensed at the address of WHF,,so there it stayed.  I certainly don't know why it was never licenced at AP's own home address ?

probely because they wouldn't give him a licence to keep it there.

[lookout]

 Why ?

[Jane]

Why ?

If WHF was his main shoot, it made sense to keep the gun there. I don't think he could hold a licence for the same weapon in different places.

[lookout]

If WHF was his main shoot, it made sense to keep the gun there. I don't think he could hold a licence for the same weapon in different places.

Yes,,that makes sense,,but I'd like to know who else was in the household.

[scipio_usmc]

If WHF was his main shoot, it made sense to keep the gun there. I don't think he could hold a licence for the same weapon in different places.

There is a great deal of misreperesentation being bandied about in this thread.

A firearms certificate allows one to BUY firearms.  You can own a certificate and yet end up never buying firearms.  It entitles one to buy firearms and to use firearms for the purspose sepcified on the certificate.

The address that must be provided is your main residence.  That is the address listed on the certificate.  These claims that he listed his address as WHF are nonsense.

He could shoot for 2 purposes according to the certificate, target shooting or shooting on land.  What land can you shoot on?  Land where you have permisison from the owner (if it is your land obviously you make the decision yourself) AND that land must be land where shooting is allowed by the government. 

The claims he had no right to store it at his home are patently false. He had an absolute right to do so. 

The precise claims he made in his 1991 Statement are as follows:

1) He normally kept his shotguns at WHF but not his BRNO rifle. 

2) He stated he left his rifle at WHF his previous visit but did not normally do so and took it home with him after this visit.

That's it with respect to his own weapons.

   

[lookout]

 Anyway,,after the tragic events,,and the world and his wife had blamed Jeremy,,from day one,,,AE promptly hands over 2 rifles to the very man she accused of the killings. Their war-cry is the ever monotonous " we live in fear of him being released ",,yet at the beginning,,he could have had a field day with his rifles.. . Is there logic here,,or have I missed something ?

[grahameb]

There is a great deal of misreperesentation being bandied about in this thread.

A firearms certificate allows one to BUY firearms.  You can own a certificate and yet end up never buying firearms.  It entitles one to buy firearms and to use firearms for the purspose sepcified on the certificate.

The address that must be provided is your main residence.  That is the address listed on the certificate.  These claims that he listed his address as WHF are nonsense.

He could shoot for 2 purposes according to the certificate, target shooting or shooting on land.  What land can you shoot on?  Land where you have permisison from the owner (if it is your land obviously you make the decision yourself) AND that land must be land where shooting is allowed by the government. 

The claims he had no right to store it at his home are patently false. He had an absolute right to do so. 

The precise claims he made in his 1991 Statement are as follows:

1) He normally kept his shotguns at WHF but not his BRNO rifle. 

2) He stated he left his rifle at WHF his previous visit but did not normally do so and took it home with him after this visit.

That's it with respect to his own weapons.

 

Then why did he alter his statement in 1991 from what he said in his 1985 statement. Where he said that the cupboard was the normal place that he kept his .22 as well as his shotguns?

[lookout]

 Statements ?? I was reading one of AE's yesterday and it was full of " I can't remembers " and " I think it was so and so ". How on this earth they reached a courtroom,I'll never know.

[scipio_usmc]

Then why did he alter his statement in 1991 from what he said in his 1985 statement. Where he said that the cupboard was the normal place that he kept his .22 as well as his shotguns?

Post exact quotes of what you claim to be contradictory.  You have a habit of not knowing what people actually stated.

[nugnug]

Yes,,that makes sense,,but I'd like to know who else was in the household.

they might of thought he was not a fit person to have a licence but of course if he got nevile they would be bound to give him a licence as nevile was a magistrate.

[lookout]

If the spent ammo was anything to go by there could have been  two guns used, even if the same box of ammo was used?

Grahame,,I'm of the belief that there were indeed two guns used----------------by two women !

[grahameb]

Post exact quotes of what you claim to be contradictory.  You have a habit of not knowing what people actually stated.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,768.msg20285.html#msg20285 page 1.

[scipio_usmc]

they might of thought he was a fit person to have a licence but of course if he got nevile they would be bound to give him a licence as nevile was a magistrate.

You get several peopel to vouch for your character to get a license, if Nevill was one of those who vouched for him that would be even better than a lay person but any respectable person will do.

They do this for firearms and other things assuming that if you have mental problems or the like that you won't be able to get someone to vouch for you.

In most instances this is not worth crap, even horrible people can find someone who will vouch for them.  They sometimes will contact the people ask if they know them to have done anything unstable or violent or other things that the person would be unlikely they ever saw and the whole thing ends up being worthless.

 

[nugnug]

no over here they wont take reference from just anybody

well most of the time.


but  they can hardly ignore a reference from a man who approves licences himself.