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In a recent communication between one of the reviewers and myself, Claire said, "DS Davidson lied", she told me, " Davidson had involvement in fingerprinting one of the silencers along with DS Eastwood on 13th September 1985", she told me, " at a time when the other silencer was already at the lab", she said, "and had been there from 30th August 1985, onwards"...

She seems to say alot of things but has not provided you with any evidence to back up these claims and some of the things claims are outright dispelled by the COLP investigation.

I would not get my hopes up too much if I were you because the claims being made are not likely and the chance of them showing you evidence to back up any of their claims is even less likely.

If COLP actually turned up evidence of a second suppressor then it would have been evidence from the various interviews.  Instead they tuned up evidence of 3 prefixes being used for the same suppressor. Prefix SJ didn't come up at all in any interview but would have if there were a suppressor with such prefix.

Indeed if their had been a SJ prefix that graduated to DB and they were going to merge the references into 1 to pretend that ther was only 1 suppressor then they would have claimed it started out SJ, went to SBJ then DB and finally DRB.







   

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COLP Interview of DS Davidson - they asked him if he had any involvement with the second silencer, and he replied, "No", he said, "that was the domain of Ron Cook", You can choose to ignore what Davison said to COLP during his interview under caution, but Davidson stated he had nothing at all to do with a silencer, and that he did not even know a silencer was involved until a long time afterwards...

Well, he had involvement with one of the silencers on the 13th September 1985, when in the company of DS Eastwood he fingerprinted one in the possession of the police, at a time when the other silencer had already been sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985. Why would Davidson and Eastwood be re-fingerprinting a silencer which (a) police did no longer have possession of because it had been sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985, and (b) which had already been fingerprinted twice previously, once by oblique light test on 15th August 1985, and secondly by superglue treatment on 23rd August 1985?

Additionally, the very same silencer which Davidson and Eastwood fingerprinted on 13th September 1985, was later submitted to the same lab' as the previous one, with a request attached to the submission of articles document, for the silencer to be checked for blood and fibres, dated, 20th September 1985, when blood had already been found in the other silencer (DB/1) sent to the lab' earluer on the 30th August 1985? Lets set the record straight, by the time this second silencer was being sent to the lab' on the 20th September 1985, to be checked for blood and fibers, blood had already been found in the other (first) silencer at the lab' from 30th August 1985, and more significantly, the blood from the submission of that first silencer had already been grouped at the lab' between 12th and 19th September 1985 by the blood experts associates, so the submission of the second silencer to the lab' on the 20th September 1985, had to be a direct reference to a second silencer. which the lab' was being requested to check for blood and fibers, after blood from the other silencer had already been found and to all intents and purposes, identified by due scientific process...

Clearly, two different silencers at the lab' at Huntingdon after 20th September 1985...

Obviously prior to that / this, only ever one silencer at the lab' on 13th August 1985, and 30th August 1985, (SJ/1 on the 13th, and DB/1 on the 30th August 1985) under lab' item numbers 22 and 23 respectively. Clearly different silencers, one (SJ/1) found by relatives at the scene on 10th August 1985, and the other (DB/1) recovered from the scene by DS Jones, on 7th August 1985...


Two different silencers defined by the fact that two different witnesses recovered them, Jones (SBJ/1) at the scene on 7th August 1985, and David Boutflour (SJ/1) at the scene on the 10th August 1985 - where SBJ/1 later became DB/1, and SJ/1 was altered into DRB/1...

Davidson and Eastwood fingerprinted the silencer SJ/1 / DRB/1, the one found at the scene by a relative bearing the lab' ID reference number of 22, they had no involvement with the other silencer, SBJ/1 / DB/1, which had a lab' ID reference number of 23, sent to the lab' on the 30th August 1985, inside which was discovered the crucial loose flake of blood which produced the damning blood group activity (A, EAP BA, HP 2-1, and the human / animal blood AK/1), through scientific process between 12th and 19th September 1985 - so the silencer Davidson and Eastwood had involvement with, which they fingerprinted after the crucial loose flake was discovered in the other silencer at the lab' (DB/1 - 23), was a different silencer, provable by reference to the dates of submission to the Lab' on official police and Lab' documents, the same silencer could not have been in two places at the same time, police could not possibly have still retained possession of the same silencer they had previously already sent to the lab' inside which the crucial loose flake had already been found on 11th September 1985, by Fletvcher the so called prosecutions ballistics expert...

Two different silencers, not one bearing all these different exhibit references and conflicting lab' reference item numbers...

Animal blood on one of the silencers (SJ/1 - 22), and human blood on the other (SBJ/1), red paint from the aga (SJ/1) on one, none on the other (SBJ/1 - 23), where SJ/1 is DRB/1, and SBJ/1 became DB/1...

Matter satisfactorily resolved...
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A)     In 1991, the City of London Police (COLP) were requested by JEREMY BAMBER to investigate the following issues:

Allegation One’: that there was no Exhibit Label for the sound moderator SBJ/1 from the original Police investigation, case number SC/688/85, when it was tendered in Court.

Allegation Five’: that Essex Police failed to investigate whether the sound moderator tendered in evidence at trial was the moderator bought for the murder weapon.

B)     On completion of the COLP enquiry two reports were produced. The published report concluded there was no case to answer to any of the complaints made by JEREMY BAMBER against Essex Police.  While the undisclosed confidential report found as fact that fabricated evidence had been adduced to impugn the credibility of Jeremy Bamber thus resulting in a guilty verdict at his trial in 1986.

The Evidence

1)   That an Essex Police Officer, probably DS 21 Stanley Brian Jones, seized a sound moderator SBJ/1 from the gun cupboard at White House Farm (WHF) on 7th August 1985.

2)      Indeed this is corroborated by Assistant Chief Constable (ACC) PETER SIMPSON stating in a press conference and reported in ‘The Echo’ dated 17th September 1985,

‘A silencer was found at the White House Farm on the day of the killings, but this does not have to mean anything suspicious.’ (See Material Exhibits File News clippings)

3)      And yet in a letter, dated 18th July 2002, from the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) to Glaisyers Solicitors, PAUL CLOSE states that the beginning of the audio tape in question as to the above interview has a considerable section of the tape missing, when Essex Police disclosed it, (see Letter To Ewen Smith from CPS)

4)      The beginning of the interview would have evidenced that the sound moderator SBJ/1 was in fact seized on the 7th August 1985, which would have impugned the Crown’s case against JEREMY BAMBER at trial and appeal.

5)      Other documents that evidence the above allegations will be identified throughout this statement using the ‘HOLMES 2’ computer reference numbers from ‘ACCOUNT A 49.’

6)      It is fact that COLP interviewed Scenes of Crime Officer (SOCO) DS 219 DAVIDSON on 3rd October 1991, (HOLMES 76/174).  In the précis of his statement at paragraph 17 he asserts that on the 9th August 1985, he was tasked with examining a number of objects including a sound moderator, (SBJ/1).

7)      On the 13th August 1985, DI RON COOK submitted this sound moderator SBJ/1, to Huntingdon Forensic Laboratory for examination by scientists, GLYNNIS HOWARD and LESLIE TUCKER, (see HOLMES 67/319 – GLYNNIS HOWARD statement 1st August 1991).   
     
8)      See the HOLAB 3, Submission of Articles for Examination Forms, dated 13th August 1985, (See Holab Forms 1,2,3,4,5) reference the sound moderator, ‘Item 22’ and ‘Item 23’, ‘SBJ/1,’ ‘DB/1,’ and ‘DRB/1,’ with the police investigation case number as ‘SC/688/85.’

9)      GLYNNIS HOWARD’S witness statement for the 13th November 1985, details that she tested blood on the inside and outside of the sound moderator DRB/1, and in both cases the blood was found to be of human origin, (Holmes 8/224)

While a letter from PETER WINGAD to DR, SCAPLEHORN states, ‘There was no record of blood being seen on the outside of the sound moderator,’ (see HOLMES 78/24). PETER WINGAD wrote this letter in his capacity as Head of the Forensic Laboratory.  While GLYNNIS HOWARD simply stated in Court at trial, that she had found blood on the outside of the sound moderator, (see GLYNNIS HOWARD’S Trial Transcript), therefore lack of corroboration is in issue.

10)  LESLIE TUCKER states in her 1st August 1991 testimony to COLP that she assisted GLYNNIS HOWARD on the 13th August 1985, (see HOLMES 67/321). Indeed, LESLIE TUCKER took notes and made a diagram of SBJ/1, (EXHIBIT REF GH/1).

In her testimony she states, ‘GH/1 has other notes upon it not made by me. These appear to be made by JOHN HAYWARD and ANDREW PALMER. These notes were not made on 13th August 1985. I am not aware of when they were added.’

11)  Four signatures appear on the General Examination Record made at Bench 4 on the 13th August 1985, they are LESLIE TUCKER, GLYNNIS HOWARD, MALCOLM FLETCHER and JOHN HAYWARD.  However, the General Examination Record does not corroborate that of the original sound moderator seized SBJ/1, because this document, the one bearing all four signatures refers to the forensic reference number as DB/1. It can now be evidenced that this reference did not in fact exist until 17th October 1985.  Thus the General Examination Record cannot be the original one created by LESLIE TUCKER on 13th August 1985, (see GENERAL EXAMINATION RECORD DB/1).

12)  The original sound moderator first discovered was assigned the reference number SBJ/1 on the 13th August 1985.  A Memo from  DI COOK to MALCOLM FLETCHER states,

‘Change sound moderators number to DB/1,’ (see HOLMES 67/241 MEMO dated 17th October 1985).
13)  GLYNNIS HOWARD testified to COLP in her witness statement dated 10th July 1991,

‘I did not have any further contact with DI COOK on the matter, or with Essex Police due to my sick leave,’ (see HOLMES 67/318).

14)  This is corroborated in a report by DR. WINGAD attached to a Memo from  DR. THOMPSON  to  DR. CLARKE  which clearly states,

‘To complicate the issue GLYNNIS HOWARD has been on long-term sick leave since January of this year,’ (see HOLMES 87/3).

15)  How is it that GLYNNIS HOWARD has signed a General Examination Record for a sound moderator DB/1 on the 13th August 1985, when the General Examination Record she signed was in fact referenced SBJ/1?(see paragraph 8).

16)  Furthermore, GLYNNIS HOWARD asserted in her testimony to COLP dated 1st August 1991 that when she examined SBJ/1 on the 13th August 1985, she discovered five stains on the sound moderator, (see HOLMES 67/319).  Four of these stains proved to positively identify human blood, while she tested a fifth stain on the flat surface on the muzzle end of the sound moderator, and identified this as a smear of red paint.

17)  GLYNNIS HOWARD failed to record her discovery of a smear of red paint on the end of the sound moderator in her Memo to DI COOK, dated 14th August 1985, or indeed in her numerous pre-trial witness statements and during her trial testimony.  It was not until 1991 that GLYNNIS HOWARD asserted this relevant discovery, in view of the facts turning on there being a fight in the kitchen at WHF, scraping the mantel shelf around the Aga. (See Holmes 67.318)

18)  Indeed, LESLIE TUCKER corroborates this as she has drawn a smear of red paint on the end of the sound moderator at the 9 o’clock position, (see EXHIBIT GH/1).  Thus it is relevant that on the General Examination Record depicting DB/1 and not SBJ/1, as the sound moderator in issue, the identifying smear of red paint is not recorded.

19)  The existence of this smear and it being deemed at the time materially relevant by the scientists is corroborated by JOHN HAYWARD in his hand written witness statement signed 8th November 1985, where he asserts that he examined SBJ/1 and that,

‘There is a smear of red paint at the muzzle end of the sound moderator,’ (see HOLMES 67/100 PDF page 7).

20)  Indeed JOHN HAYWARD took it upon himself to take a number of photographic images of the sound moderator SBJ/1, when he examined and dismantled it on the 12th September 1985.  These images are referred to as reference JH/1. See also document 80/10 reference 24J – 6 X Photo albums of silencers, and 24w – 7 X albums of photographs re silencer.

21)  Moreover, BRIAN ELLIOT was shown these photographs by COLP, (see BRIAN ELLIOT’S witness statement dated 3rd October 1991, HOLMES 67/322).  These images taken on the 12th September 1985 that are undeniably relevant evidence have never been tendered to the Defence in any event.  Similarly those photographs of silencers mentioned in document 80/10 remain undisclosed.

22)  In 2002, a third Police enquiry was undertaken to investigate the actions of Essex Police in the STOKENCHURCH enquiry.  A number of issues were found as fact.

23)  Action Number A204 states:

‘Examine paint on moderator to establish if there is paint thereon.’

‘FSS to examine paint stain (one) on moderator to establish if there are any blood stains underneath the paint marks.’

Result, 20/02/02:

‘The underside of the paint and the exposed area left on the moderator were tested for the presence of blood. The results were negative.’

24)  In 2002, STOKENCHURCH asked the FSS to examine sound moderator SBJ/1 that had a smear of red paint on the flat surface of the muzzle end.  Sound moderator DB/1 had been found as fact to have numerous red paint flakes impacted upon the knurled pattern, and no smear of red paint on the end of the flat surface, thereby establishing the difference between SBJ/1 and DB/1.

25)  COLP misled the Home Secretary at the time, in their published report submitted to him where they state,

‘That the sound moderator should have been photographed at the earliest opportunity.  Unfortunately this did not happen.  The earliest photographs taken of the sound moderator were taken on the 11th November 1985,’ (see COLP Report, paragraph 2/57). It can now be evidenced that this statement lacks credibility.

26)  MALCOLM FLETCHER was sent a number of photographs taken of the dismantled sound moderator by DI RON COOK, (see HOLMES 78/14).  These images had been taken by DI RON COOK at Chelmsford HQ Scenes of Crime Department on 21st August 1985, (see Holmes 8/215 DI RON COOK’S 25th September 1991 Witness Statement PDF page 33).

27)  It remains to be disclosed whether JOHN HAYWARD was aware when he examined SBJ/1 on 12th September 1985, that SBJ/1 had been dismantled in the first instance and had its baffle plates spread out upon a work bench where a blood stained rifle had been placed for convenience at the same time, possibly corrupting its evidential integrity.

28)  JOHN HAYWARD stated that he discovered a single flake of blood inside the sound moderator that he used in all his blood grouping tests, the question remains was he aware of the images that MALCOLM FLETCHER had in his possession as to the real possibility of contamination of SBJ/1 by the rifle when he examined it? (see HOLMES 78/14)

29)  Both JOHN HAYWARD and GLYNNIS HOWARD gave testimony as expert witnesses at trial.  They stated that they had screened the blood stains discovered on the sound moderator SBJ/1, to discern whether they were of human or animal origin.  The Jury were instructed by the two of them, that the blood tested did not originate from an animal but was in fact human.

30)  JOHN HAYWARD and GLYNNIS HOWARD failed to inform the Jury that they in fact screened the blood for two types of animal – dog and hen, (see HOLMES 12/194 PDF page 5) but the .22 rifle in issue (Exhibit DRH/15), was used to shoot rabbits, foxes and rats.  No evidence has been submitted to Huntingdon Forensic Laboratory to suggest that the sound moderator was ever used to shoot hens or dogs.  Why then select these two animal types as possible sources of the blood staining on the sound moderator SBJ/1? Indeed, why did JOHN HAYWARD and GLYNNIS HOWARD fail to inform the Jury that they had not tested the blood for obvious farm pests such as foxes, rabbits and rats but instead for hens and dogs?

31)  In 1986, on the basis of their expert testimony the Jury were led to believe that all types of animal screening had been undertaken, with a negative result, thus their credibility is in issue.

32)  Had it been brought to the Jury’s attention that the sound moderator could well have been contaminated with rabbit blood, then the Defence would have been able to rebut the prosecution’s proposition and illustrate that the positive result for AK/1 an enzyme attributed to Sheila Caffell, as asserted by JOHN HAYWARD, could also be attributed to the AK/1 enzyme found in all rabbit blood (see R-10).

33)  Moreover, on the 25th September 1985, BRIAN ELLIOT was prima facie given ‘SBJ/1’ to examine including the smear of red paint on the flat surface on the muzzle end, as discovered by GLYNNIS HOWARD and JOHN HAYWARD, (see HOLMES 67/319, HOLMES 67/100).

34)  BRIAN ELLIOT instead found a large quantity of red paint flakes impacted into the knurled end of the sound moderator, and no smear of red paint adhering to the surface of the flat end piece.  At the time BRIAN ELLIOT believed he was examining SBJ/1 due to its packaging and labelling, however this sound moderator was in fact DB/1.  This fact can be corroborated by BRIAN ELLIOT’S realisation in 1991 when he was shown JOHN HAYWARD’S photographs by COLP of SBJ/1, (see HOLMES 67/322, statement dated 3rd October 1991).

35)  Indeed, the sound moderator in photos JH/1 had blood in the dips and the grooves of its knurled pattern (see GLYNNIS HOWARD’S Trial Transcript).  These photographs had none of the twenty-five plus red paint flakes that BRIAN ELLIOT found in the dips and grooves of the knurl, and as evidenced in his trial testimony he found no blood in the sound moderator’s knurl (see BRIAN ELLIOT’S Trial Transcript).

36)  The diagrams drawn by BRIAN ELLIOT and LOUISE FLOAT on the 25th September 1985 shows that the sound moderator had a large piece of sticky tape adhering to it that was not present when JOHN  HAYWARD examined it, and then photographed it on 12th September 1985, (see HOLMES 67/193).

37)  It is fact that the sound moderator SBJ/1, also had a white film of super glue covering its outer surface owing to the fingerprinting process undertaken on the 15th August 1985.

38)  But DB/1, the sound moderator examined by BRIAN ELLIOT and LOUISE FLOAT did not have such a white film on its outer surface.

39)  Indeed DB/1 was found in the same gun cupboard as SBJ/1 by DAVID BOUTFLOUR on the 10th August 1985.  It then remained in a card board box at his sister, ANN EATON’S house until 11th September 1985, (see P35).  It was then collected by DC OAKEY on 11th September 1985 and handed to DCI WRIGHT SOC Chelmsford.

40)  On the 12th September 1985 DI COOK and DC BIRD attended WHF to take photographic images of scratch marks on the underside of the kitchen’s mantel shelf.  On that same day they also took photographs of the kitchen in its tidied state, (see Police Reference Number Negative Strip YELLOW LABEL – 34, NEGATIVES 7-10, these appear in the Master Copy Album as Photographs Numbers 148, 149, 150, and 151).

41)  It can be clearly seen from NEGATIVE NUMBER 7 of YL-34 that it is an area of red painted surround to the left of the cooker (at waist height), it can be seen to be free of scratch marks or chips/gouges in the red paint work.

42)  While it can be seen that NEGATIVE NUMBER 9, of YL-34 shows the same area of this red painted Aga surround, when this area is enlarged it shows that the left hand vertical fascia at (waist height) now has a deep ‘U’ shape, white coloured scratch mark upon it.  Also, near the ‘U’ shaped scratch mark is a deep, white coloured gouge in an area of the small cupboard door.  This area on the cupboard door was previously covered by the kitchen calendar in the crime scene photographs.

43)  These two distinct marks must have been made either by DC BIRD and/or DI RON COOK, as no other person was present at WHF on the 12th September 1985.  NEGATIVE NUMBER 7 of YL-34, has been taken in a chronological order and is taken prior to NEGATIVE NUMBER 9 of YL – 34, therefore it is logical to assume that these later marks were gouged using the sound moderator DB/1.  Indeed there were over twenty-five flakes of red paint upon DB/1 which would corroborate an intensity of impact upon the Aga surround by the sound moderator and the depth of the mark made, that was later used to bolster the prosecution’s proposition.

44)  In 1991, DR. BAXENDALE, using ESDA testing, was requested by COLP to examine the Exhibit Labels for the sound moderator SBJ/1 (Exhibit Label AH/1), (see HOLMES 24/170).

45)  Indeed, DR. BAXENDALE’s 23rd September 1991, witness statement shows clearly that he found as fact that the Exhibit Label signed by GLYNNIS HOWARD, DI RON COOK, JOHN HAYWARD, MALCOLM FLETCHER and BRIAN ELLIOT was originally written out specifically for sound moderator DRB/1, case reference number SC/786/85, (see HOLMES 6/109).

46)  While GLYNNIS HOWARD testified to COLP that she only signed one Exhibit Label for the sound moderator SBJ/1 on 13th August 1985, case number SC/688/85.  Furthermore, she stated that the Exhibit Label shown to her by COLP bearing her signature, (AH/1) shows that SBJ/1 had been changed to DB/1 then DRB/1 subsequent to her signing it, (see HOLMES REF 67/320).  This clearly contradicts the findings of the expert witness DR. BAXENDALE and impugns GLYNNIS HOWARD’s credibility.

47)  Moreover, COLP were aware of his findings from his 23rd September 1991 Witness Statement, and that GLYNNIS HOWARD was not a credible witness due to what she stated on 3rd October 1991.  Instead GLYNNIS HOWARD signed a new Exhibit Label for DRB/1, a sound moderator she had neither seen nor examined for case reference SC/786/85.  To create a false Exhibit Label in order to mislead a Jury is to pervert the course of justice.  JOHN HAYWARD was never interviewed by COLP in 1991.  He has not explained how his signature came to be on the exhibit label marked DRB/1 when he examined SBJ/1.
48)  It may be fact that Essex Police misled Huntingdon’s Forensic Scientists into creating a new set of examination documents and a new Exhibit Label for DRB/1, without them realising that they were facilitating SBJ/1 being swapped for DB/1 and then being merged evidentially to form a third fictional sound moderator, as being the one removed from WHF.

49)  However, it is believed that Essex Police had at least one Forensic Scientist who conspired to help switch SBJ/1 to DB/1 prior to BRIAN ELLIOT’s 25th September 1985 examination.  Unless an admission is made by the scientist in question their identity will remain concealed.  Indeed it is not known how much of the information provided thus far the scientists in question were aware of in 1985 and 1991.  Yet there are over one hundred additional documents that contain information corroborating and evidencing all the above facts.

50)  In any event, the Defence request a full account as to how it was that Essex Police instructed Huntingdon Forensic Scientists to fabricate a set of false documents, purporting to follow a chain of evidence that bolstered the credibility of an exhibit item, for a sound moderator DRB/1, which it is fact was fictional.  This ‘sound moderator’ DRB/1, was used to mislead the Jury in 1986 by merging the forensic evidence of two sound moderators SBJ/1 and DB/1, resulting in a miscarriage of justice.

51)  It is considered that complicity and lack of credibility by certain scientists as adduced by other expert witnesses not involved in the trial at first instance, i.e. DR. BAXENDALE, in addition to the documents now in the hands of the Defence, suggests the mens rea regarding the offence of perverting the course of justice.

Conclusion

It is only now twenty-six years later, that JEREMY BAMBER’s Defence team were eventually disclosed case photographs and documents previously withheld under Public Immunity Interest.  This evidence clearly shows that the Jury were misled regarding the provenance of the sound moderator material to the facts of the prosecution’s case.  In addition to it being corrupted and fabricated as to its identity in any event.

The Huntingdon Forensic Scientists had a duty and obligation to make accountable to the Court at the time of trial as to the re-writing and signing of numerous sets of documents, including the Exhibit Label for alternative sound moderators.  The fact that they did not and indeed in two instances at least, committed perjury during the COLP enquiry allowed Essex Police to pervert the course of justice by fabricating it as fact that only one sound moderator featured in the case.

ACC SIMPSON himself was aware that two sound moderators featured in the evidence of the case and that the Jury were misled by the tainting of evidence as facilitated by the Forensic Scientists named in this document.  None of the expert witnesses who were in a position of trust, or serving Police Officers tendered evidence that actually illustrated the truth of the facts as shown in this document. This resulted in the jury being misled in 1986.

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Contents reviewed by "Cyclops" reviewers:-

A)     In 1991, the City of London Police (COLP) were requested by JEREMY BAMBER to investigate the following issues:

Allegation One’: that there was no Exhibit Label for the sound moderator SBJ/1 from the original Police investigation, case number SC/688/85, when it was tendered in Court.

Allegation Five’: that Essex Police failed to investigate whether the sound moderator tendered in evidence at trial was the moderator bought for the murder weapon.

B)     On completion of the COLP enquiry two reports were produced. The published report concluded there was no case to answer to any of the complaints made by JEREMY BAMBER against Essex Police.  While the undisclosed confidential report found as fact that fabricated evidence had been adduced to impugn the credibility of Jeremy Bamber thus resulting in a guilty verdict at his trial in 1986.

The Evidence

1)   That an Essex Police Officer, probably DS 21 Stanley Brian Jones, seized a sound moderator SBJ/1 from the gun cupboard at White House Farm (WHF) on 7th August 1985

Not accurate - DS Jones returned to the scene after briefly attending Jeremys cottage to assist DC Clarke to take a witness statement from Jeremy. Upon returning to the scene DS Jones took a photograph of the downstairs toilet and photographed Anthony Pargeters bruno bolt action rifle with its silencer attached to the barrel. He also seized two exhibits from the region of the kitchen, and took possession of a silencer (SBJ/1)...

He did not seize the silencer he took possession of from the gun cupboard in the downstairs office, DS Jones never looked in the gun cupboard, on that visit, he only entered the downstairs toilet and the main kitchen where he took a photograph and siezed three items, compromising of exhibits, SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4...
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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SBJ/1 was the first silencer seized by police at the scene on the first day of the investigation,  this is the silencer which ended up on DCI 'Taff' JONES, desk in his office at Witham police station, where it remained until PC Whiddon took possession of it, and it got sent to the lab' for the first time on the 30th August 1985, under the identifying mark of DB/1, lab' item number 23. It was inside this particular silencer the the crucial loose flake of blood was found on 11th September 1985...
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SBJ/1 was the first silencer seized by police at the scene on the first day of the investigation,  this is the silencer which ended up on DCI 'Taff' JONES, desk in his office at Witham police station, where it remained until PC Whiddon took possession of it, and it got sent to the lab' for the first time on the 30th August 1985, under the identifying mark of DB/1, lab' item number 23. It was inside this particular silencer the the crucial loose flake of blood was found on 11th September 1985...

SBJ/1 and DB/1 silencer were one and the same, found on 7th August 1985, and sent to the Lab' at Huntingdon on 30th August 1985, inside which unique blood attributed as belonging to Sheila was discovered on 11th September 1985...
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COLP Interview of DS Davidson - they asked him if he had any involvement with the second silencer, and he replied, "No", he said, "that was the domain of Ron Cook", You can choose to ignore what Davison said to COLP during his interview under caution, but Davidson stated he had nothing at all to do with a silencer, and that he did not even know a silencer was involved until a long time afterwards...

I'm not ignoring anything. You are grossly misrepresenting what Davidson was asked and his response.  He said Cook had control of THE moderator.  He said he never handled the moderator.  He said it was the only moderator he was aware of.  He also spoke about how Cook transported the moderator back and forth to the lab multiple times.  He was also asked about how it became number 22 but later was referenced as 23 and if they were 2 different moderators which is where the quesiton of whether he was aware of another moderator came from.  He responded no and that 22 and 23 were references to the same item and explained how this error came to happen.

Well, he had involvement with one of the silencers on the 13th September 1985, when in the company of DS Eastwood he fingerprinted one in the possession of the police, at a time when the other silencer had already been sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985. Why would Davidson and Eastwood be re-fingerprinting a silencer which (a) police did no longer have possession of because it had been sent to the lab' on 30th August 1985, and (b) which had already been fingerprinted twice previously, once by oblique light test on 15th August 1985, and secondly by superglue treatment on 23rd August 1985?

Additionally, the very same silencer which Davidson and Eastwood fingerprinted on 13th September 1985, was later submitted to the same lab' as the previous one, with a request attached to the submission of articles document, for the silencer to be checked for blood and fibres, dated, 20th September 1985, when blood had already been found in the other silencer (DB/1) sent to the lab' earluer on the 30th August 1985? Lets set the record straight, by the time this second silencer was being sent to the lab' on the 20th September 1985, to be checked for blood and fibers, blood had already been found in the other (first) silencer at the lab' from 30th August 1985, and more significantly, the blood from the submission of that first silencer had already been grouped at the lab' between 12th and 19th September 1985 by the blood experts associates, so the submission of the second silencer to the lab' on the 20th September 1985, had to be a direct reference to a second silencer. which the lab' was being requested to check for blood and fibers, after blood from the other silencer had already been found and to all intents and purposes, identified by due scientific process...

Clearly, two different silencers at the lab' at Huntingdon after 20th September 1985...

Obviously prior to that / this, only ever one silencer at the lab' on 13th August 1985, and 30th August 1985, (SJ/1 on the 13th, and DB/1 on the 30th August 1985) under lab' item numbers 22 and 23 respectively. Clearly different silencers, one (SJ/1) found by relatives at the scene on 10th August 1985, and the other (DB/1) recovered from the scene by DS Jones, on 7th August 1985...

This is all unsupported nonsense that was made up.  You have no evidence at all to support any of this.  He didn't fingerprint anything his role was filling out paperwork for the various things that were done to the moderator. He didn't fingerpint anything he submitted the results of the fingerprints to have the results checked against fingerprint records.

The moderator was sent back and forth to the lab at various time in August and September it didn't stay there continuously.  He stated Cook was the one who was transporting it.  The lie that it stayed there is coupled with the truth of it being transported and the fiction is presented of there already being a moderator in the lab when it was brought back which is false.

There is no evidence at all of two moderators being collected or tested.  It is all contribed BS and hence there is no evidentiary support at all, just a bunch of bogus misrepresentations meant to confuse people and hoping such confusion will make them believe without any proof being presented.

Two different silencers defined by the fact that two different witnesses recovered them, Jones (SBJ/1) at the scene on 7th August 1985, and David Boutflour (SJ/1) at the scene on the 10th August 1985 - where SBJ/1 later became DB/1, and SJ/1 was altered into DRB/1...

More utter BS from you.  SBJ didn't recover a moderator from the scene at any time let alone on the 7th.  Had it been found on the 7th then it would have been found and transported by Hammersly and Davidson and would have been listed on the CID6 forms they were compiling at the location.  Hammersly was retrieving and bagging all items to be taken and Davidson was labeling and recording them.

Stanley Jones did a quick walk through of the house very early on and then left the scene to go to Goldhanger. He spent the rest of the day there interviewing various people. He played no role at all in the collection of evidence.  The evidence demonstrates Jones collected the suppressor from Boutflour days later. The exhibit reference SBJ/1 was assigned by Cook because Jones gave Cook the suppressor and he assumed Jones found it.  Cook admitted he was wrong and indicated that upon

The only moderator found is the one from Boutflour.  That moderator was assigned SBJ/1 because Jones gave it to Cook and Cook erroneously thought he was the one who found it.  This was the first peice of evidence in the case being attributed to Jones hence the reason for the number "1" being used after his prefix.  If there had actually been a moderator or any other piece of evidence found by him on 8/7/85 that would have been assigned SBJ/1 not SJ/1 and the moderator he gave Cook would have been assigned SBJ/2.

So there are 2 different reasons to know these claims are complete fabrications:

1) he never searched the house for evidence on the day of the murders he was busy conducting interviews as the house wa sbeing searched and evidence collected

2) SJ is not the prefix used for evidence he collected, SBJ was the prefix assigned to him (not just from this case but all cases SBJ is his individual tag) and the first piece of evidence collected in the case attributed to him was the moderator he gave to Cook.

3) SBJ was amended to DB when it was realized that Boutflour was the source of the suppressor handed by Jones to cook.  It was further changed to DRB because DB was already being used by David Byrd so they had to use Boutflour's middle initial as well.

Not only do your claims fall apart completely upon scrutiny worse you can't even keep your story straight.

For days you mainted SJ1 became DB1.  Now you suddenly claim SJ1 became DRB1. No matter because there is no SJ1 it is fictitious anyway but firther proof is when you can't even keep your claims straight.   


Davidson and Eastwood fingerprinted the silencer SJ/1 / DRB/1, the one found at the scene by a relative bearing the lab' ID reference number of 22, they had no involvement with the other silencer, SBJ/1 / DB/1, which had a lab' ID reference number of 23, sent to the lab' on the 30th August 1985, inside which was discovered the crucial loose flake of blood which produced the damning blood group activity (A, EAP BA, HP 2-1, and the human / animal blood AK/1), through scientific process between 12th and 19th September 1985 - so the silencer Davidson and Eastwood had involvement with, which they fingerprinted after the crucial loose flake was discovered in the other silencer at the lab' (DB/1 - 23), was a different silencer, provable by reference to the dates of submission to the Lab' on official police and Lab' documents, the same silencer could not have been in two places at the same time, police could not possibly have still retained possession of the same silencer they had previously already sent to the lab' inside which the crucial loose flake had already been found on 11th September 1985, by Fletvcher the so called prosecutions ballistics expert...

Two different silencers, not one bearing all these different exhibit references and conflicting lab' reference item numbers...

Animal blood on one of the silencers (SJ/1 - 22), and human blood on the other (SBJ/1), red paint from the aga (SJ/1) on one, none on the other (SBJ/1 - 23), where SJ/1 is DRB/1, and SBJ/1 became DB/1...

Matter satisfactorily resolved...

The matter was resolved by COlP.  There was only one moderator and it was assigned the number 22 and 23 because of error.   Davidson didn't fingerprint anything he handled paperwork related to running the prints. There is no evidence of animal blood or any of the other BS you are spewing.  There is no evidence of any moderator other than the one passed from Boutflour to Cook being collected at the scene or from anywhere else in 1985.  No evidence of any moderator other than the one passed from Boutflour to Cook being inspected by police or tested by the lab in 1985. 

The claims that there was a moderaor collected by Jones on the day of the murders that was assigned prefix SJ is completely made up as are all the other claims about such nonexistent moderator.

You have no evidence at all to back up any of your claims you have unsupported allegations that make no sense and fall apart completely upon scutiny.

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Stop trying to be an idiot, you already are one...

Thick twat...

Silencer SJ/1 and DRB/1 are the same silencer, the other silencer was SBJ/1 - DB/1...

Get your facts right, I was merely reporting what someone else had posted elsewhere, it was that person who got it wrong, not me charlie boy...
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Stop trying to be an idiot, you already are one...

Thick twat...

Silencer SJ/1 and DRB/1 are the same silencer, the other silencer was SBJ/1 - DB/1...

Get your facts right, I was merely reporting what someone else had posted elsewhere, it was that person who got it wrong, not me charlie boy...

I have my facts right.

The claim Jones collected a moderator on August 7, 1985 that was marked into evidence as SJ/1 is not credible at all and there is no evidence at all to support such a claim.

A) The prefix used by Stanley Jones is SBJ.  So if he had collected a moderator or any other piece of evidence then it would have been classified SBJ/1.

B) Stanley Jones was not at WHF that long and while there he did not search for evidence or collect any.  That task fell to others later in the day. That morning he went to Goldhanger and spent the rest of the day interviewing people.

So let's recap:

1) there is no documentary evidence or testimonial evidence of any moderator being collected on August 7, 1985 period

2) there is no documentary evidence or testimonial evidence of any moderator being marked into evidence as SJ/1 and no one connected with the case used the SJ prefix

3) there is no documentary or testimonial evidence that Stanley Jones found a moderator period let alone on August 7, 1985

4) there is testimonial and documentary evidence to establish Stanley Jones collected a moderator from Boutfour, that he transported such to Cook and that since he provided it to Cook that Cook erroneously thought Jones had found it and assigned it SBJ/1 because the SBJ prefix is the one associated with Stanley Jones and no exhibits had been attributed to Jones yet hence the "1".  Had other evidence been collected by Jones prior to this then it would have had the SBJ/1 designation and the suppressor from Boutflour would have been designated SBJ/2.

5) testimonial and documentary evidence establishes that upon learning the evidence had been submitted by Boutflour it was changed to his initials DB.

6) testimonial and documentary evidence establishes that upon subsequently learning that DB was already being used by David Byrd the prefix was changed again to include Bourflour's middle initial hence to "DRB".

7) testimonial and documentary evidence establishes there was only 1 moderator that was collected and tested in all of 1985 and that it was observed with both blood and paint on it.     

8) that there is an allegation that COLP investigators revealed to someone that they are hiding evidence that Stanley Jones collected a moderator from the scene on August 7, 1985 that was marked into evidence as SJ/1 but was later renamed DRB/1 and another suppressor from Boutflour a few days later marked SJ/1 that was renamed DB/1 and then both were merged into 1 record of DRB/1. 

In light of: the fact that the claim that COLP admitted they concealed evidence makes no sense at all,  that there so no evidence to prove that COLP concealed such evidence, and points 1-7 the claim is not credible at all.

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Ok, Charlie.

You just continue to talk crap and believe what you want to believe. But the truth of the matter is that there were two ke sound moderators at the heart of this investigation. One seized by DS Jones at the scene on 7th August. Amongst a collection of four exhibits that he returned to collect after spending time at Jeremys house helping DC Clarke take a witness statement from Jeremy. Now, when DS Jones was interviewed under caution by COLP as part of thier investigations (1991 / 1992) it was put to him that he returned to the scene on 7th August 1985 from Jeremys house, and they asked him why he had gone back there, and what he did when he arived back there?

Well, would you believe it...

Jones told COLP...
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Ok, Charlie.

You just continue to talk crap and believe what you want to believe. But the truth of the matter is that there were two ke sound moderators at the heart of this investigation. One seized by DS Jones at the scene on 7th August. Amongst a collection of four exhibits that he returned to collect after spending time at Jeremys house helping DC Clarke take a witness statement from Jeremy. Now, when DS Jones was interviewed under caution by COLP as part of thier investigations (1991 / 1992) it was put to him that he returned to the scene on 7th August 1985 from Jeremys house, and they asked him why he had gone back there, and what he did when he arived back there?

Well, would you believe it...

Jones told COLP...

Jones told COLP what?  He told COLP that there was only 1 moderator he was ever aware of and that it was the one handed over by Boutflour. 

He didn't say anything about returning to WHF on August 7, 1985 to search for evidence, he said that there was a meeting at the police station held that evening that he had to attend because Taff Jones wanted the statements and so forth that had been collected so the evidence could be discussed and gone over.

I believe what I do because there is a sound basis for it.  I need to see evidence before I will start believing any revisionist accounts.  So far there is a total lack of any evidence to support any of these revisionist accounts. 



 

 
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DS "Stan" Jones told COLP, that he could not remember why he returned to whf after going along to Jeremy's cottage that morning. COLP pointed out to him that he visited the scene twice on the morning of 7th August 1985, by reference to entries in his pocketbook, but DS Jones told COLP that he could not remember why he returned to the scene for a second time. Well, folks, he could not conveniently remember why he returned to the farmhouse because on that second visit, he took control of four key exhibits, yes sir, exhibits SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4, as detailed in the original entries of the major incident property register when the investigation was being looked into on the basis that police were treating the shootings as four murders and a suicide, but guess what, Charlie boy, these four items (SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4) were missing altogether once the nature of the investigation changed at the beginning of September 1985, or in other words, items SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4 were not recorded at all in the revised major incident property book, and these four missing items / photograph were replaced by the addition of four bullet cases into the main bedroom scenario...

Ooops...

I am letting the cat out of the bag sooner than I had planned...
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At one time, the four exhibits seized by DS "Stan" Jones from the scene on 7th August 1985, were given exhibit references of DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, but DC Hammersley was unsure about getting involved if falsifying his account about which exhibits he had taken possession of at the scene that morning. In the end, the original exhibits bearing the identifying marks of SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4, that got changed into exhibits DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, were consigned to different exhibit references (DRH/48, DRH/49, DRH/50 and DRH/51), so that four loose bullet cases could be added to the total of bullet cases recovered from the region of the main bedroom, these four additional four bullet cases ended up becoming exhibits DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, for the purpose of covering up the shooting of Sheila CAffell by police after the police surgeon Dr Craig had already pronounced Sheila as being dead from as long ago as 8.44...

When DC Hammersley was being interviewed by the COLP investigators, the very first thing he yelled out, even before COLP got a chance to outline what they wanted to speak to him about, was "I DIDN'T FIND IT"...

He didn't find it (silencer SBJ/1 / DRH/1) and he didn't find bullet cases DRH/1 and DRH/2 on the bedroom floor next to Sheila's body either...

If COLP had wanted to they could have asked DC Hammersley, if he hadn't found it, who had?

If COLP had taken this approach DC Hammersley would almost certainly have told them that DS "Stan" Jones had found the silencer (SBJ/1) at the scene that first morning...
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At one time, the four exhibits seized by DS "Stan" Jones from the scene on 7th August 1985, were given exhibit references of DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, but DC Hammersley was unsure about getting involved if falsifying his account about which exhibits he had taken possession of at the scene that morning. In the end, the original exhibits bearing the identifying marks of SBJ/1, SBJ/2, SBJ/3 and SBJ/4, that got changed into exhibits DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, were consigned to different exhibit references (DRH/48, DRH/49, DRH/50 and DRH/51), so that four loose bullet cases could be added to the total of bullet cases recovered from the region of the main bedroom, these four additional four bullet cases ended up becoming exhibits DRH/1, DRH/2, DRH/3 and DRH/4, for the purpose of covering up the shooting of Sheila CAffell by police after the police surgeon Dr Craig had already pronounced Sheila as being dead from as long ago as 8.44...

When DC Hammersley was being interviewed by the COLP investigators, the very first thing he yelled out, even before COLP got a chance to outline what they wanted to speak to him about, was "I DIDN'T FIND IT"...

He didn't find it (silencer SBJ/1 / DRH/1) and he didn't find bullet cases DRH/1 and DRH/2 on the bedroom floor next to Sheila's body either...

If COLP had wanted to they could have asked DC Hammersley, if he hadn't found it, who had?

If COLP had taken this approach DC Hammersley would almost certainly have told them that DS "Stan" Jones had found the silencer (SBJ/1) at the scene that first morning...

Reviewers are satisfied that PI "Bob" Miller was at the heart of falsifying the exhibit references so that the fact DS Jones had seized the first silencer from the scene on 7th August 1985, could be hidden from public knowlege, which in turn would help to cover up the true circumstances of Sheila Caffells death upstairs in the bedroom, after 8.44...
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In a recent meeting with two of the "CYCLOPS" reviewers, we had a revelation moment during our discussion about trying to establish that there were two different key silencers at the heart of Jeremys prosecution and convictions...

These being, silencer (1) SBJ/1 taken from the scene by DS Jones on 7th August 1985, and the second silencer (2) found at the scene by David Boutflour on 10th August 1985, which remained without an exhibit reference until Ron Cook got to the lab; on 13th August 1985, and he attached a brown label upon which he wrote the identifying mark of SJ/1...

Silencer SBJ/1 was not, is not the same SJ/1 silencer, because each was recovered from the scene on different dates, by two different people...
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