The last ultimate test of gun, to prove sound moderator was not used in shooting

[mike tesko]

Bullets were fired through a gun barrel which had 8 lands and 8 grooves:-

In the following diagrammatic image, this barrel only has six...

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Small traces of victims blood which entered the unsilenced barrel became nestled in remote inaccessible regions of the guns barrel free from the detection of a basic cloth pull - through test, like the one the ballistic expert Fletcher claims he performed before the official test fire of the anshulzt rifle silencer and control ammunition:-

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Small traces of victims blood which entered the unsilenced barrel became nestled in remote inaccessible regions of the guns barrel free from the detection of a basic cloth pull - through test, like the one the ballistic expert Fletcher claims he performed before the official test fire of the anshulzt rifle silencer and control ammunition:-

The notion that back spatter only landed in the corner of the grooves and no where else so wasn't found is absurd.

Likewise the notion that a cotton wick would miss such places with each pass is nonsense.

A wick is intentionally thicker than the barrel so that it has to rub against the barrel.  The heads get inside the grooves, if they didn't then barrel fouling would not be cleaned out and the cleaning kit would be rather worthless.



A few specks at the very end of the grooves would not be consistent with drawback which would result in significantly more blood.

Your absolutes that blood will be found and the significance if that happened is bogus, the best you could suggest at this point is that if the lab found a significant amount of blood in the barrel and illegally failed to record such find MAYBE somehow the lab missed tiny drops of blood in the barrel and they remain to be found.  That would not be likely though, the pullthrough would likely have cleaned out the barrel quite well.

Nor is it easy to do a DNA test after running a chemical test to determine if something is actually human blood. The DNA profile usually can't be successfully obtained. Just finding blood or DNA doesn't cut it. You need to be able to estbalish blood was found and that there is a DNA match of such blood to Sheila in order to try to suggest that the gun was used without the suppressor to kill her and allege the lab found more blood but concealed the findings.

Since a tiny bit of blood could be accidentally transferred this might not sway an appeal court though if all such were to be proven.

The hope of finding a large quantity of blood consistent with drawback is fools hope.   

   

[mike tesko]

In addition to the lands and grooves which line the barrel of the anshuzt rifle, are straition and tooling marks, and blood from the victims deposited itself deep into the grain of the gun metal...

It was impossible for a cloth pull - through (MDF/1) to have entered into all of these inaccessible regions of the gun barrel, no matter what charlie boy has to say - and in any event, a professional clean using the correct fine tooling equipment to sanitize the end of the anshuzt rifle barrel will apparently not do any harm according to charlie...

So, this is what needs to be done, the barrell of the anshuzt rifle needs to be professionally cleaned using fine tooling equipment, to an equivalent depth of the distance which blood was said to have travelled down into the sound moderator. once all the debri is removed, it can be scientifically examined and tested for blood grouping, and or DNA profiling...

Charlie boy can scream all he likes, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Reviewers are confident that cleaning this small part of the anshulzt rifles barrel, and having all the debris which gets removed at that time, will reveal whether or not the silencer was fitted to the gun barrels at the time Sheila Caffell was shot under the chin and killed. Similar tests have been done by experts on other occasions with satisfactory results, so Charlie boy and his gang of "Bamber is guilty", clan will now be worried sick that at long last, a test is available to prove one way or another if a silencer which had blood at its top end (Muzzle) covering 8 baffles, with no blood at the bottom end (screw thread end) consisting of 9 baffles, was on the gun at the critical moment...

Charlie boy can scream all he likes...

The test can be done, the debris from inside that crucial section of the barrel can be scientifically examined, and if Sheila's blood is detected in the remnants of the debris removed, then the game will be up for the great pretenders...

How could Sheila's blood (in those circumstances) have passed beyond 9 spotlessly clean baffle plates and become deposited inside the recessed areas of the lands and grooves, striation and fine tooling marks in that crucial part of the guns barrel...

[mike tesko]

The threads of the cloth pull - through (MDF/1) cannot get right into the corners of the grooves because as the cloth gets pulled through the length of the barrel it starts to twist and turn because of the design features of the rifling, so it does not matter which way the rifling of the barrel twists and turns, you are always going to get remote regions in the corner of these grooves where the padding of the cloth cannot gain access to...

In any event, let charlie boy have his say and if per chance what he is bleeting on about has some truth in it, he won't have anything to worry about...

Test which Cyclops reviewers have drawn attention to, is a scientific test which has not yet previously been undertaken, nor the debris recovered from such tests analyzed to see if any of Sheila's blood and DNA is present inside the end of the anshulz rifles barrel. I have it on good authority that by passing a cloth pull - through a barrel which has dried blood inside that the wadding even if it comes in direct contact with dry blood in the barrel the wadding will not pick up traces of dry blood, it will slip over it without depositing itself upon the cloth, so Charlie boy can say what he likes...

Any gun dealer, gun enthusiast, gun expert will confirm that by simply passing a cloth pull - through along the inner length of a rifles barrel does not guarantee that afterwards the inner surfaces of the barrel will always be spotlessly clean. What you need to achieve that are special tools available to dealers, enthusiasts, and experts which are taylor made for that specific purpose of thoroughly cleaning the barrel...

Don't forget the gap of blood and dna free baffles at the bottom end of the silencer which screws onto the muzzle end of the rifles barrel? A gap of blood and DNA free baffle of which there were 9, and then upon the completion of the proposed testing of that very crucial part right at the end of the guns barrel, and the debris removed under strigent scientific copntrol, tested to establish whether or not blood and DNA belonging to Sheila is present within, finally at long last forces the other party to have to bite the bullet, so to speak...

Game over, charlie boy...

[scipio_usmc]

In addition to the lands and grooves which line the barrel of the anshuzt rifle, are straition and tooling marks, and blood from the victims deposited itself deep into the grain of the gun metal...

It was impossible for a cloth pull - through (MDF/1) to have entered into all of these inaccessible regions of the gun barrel, no matter what charlie boy has to say - and in any event, a professional clean using the correct fine tooling equipment to sanitize the end of the anshuzt rifle barrel will apparently not do any harm according to charlie...


So, this is what needs to be done, the barrell of the anshuzt rifle needs to be professionally cleaned using fine tooling equipment, to an equivalent depth of the distance which blood was said to have travelled down into the sound moderator. once all the debri is removed, it can be scientifically examined and tested for blood grouping, and or DNA profiling...

Charlie boy can scream all he likes, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Reviewers are confident that cleaning this small part of the anshulzt rifles barrel, and having all the debris which gets removed at that time, will reveal whether or not the silencer was fitted to the gun barrels at the time Sheila Caffell was shot under the chin and killed. Similar tests have been done by experts on other occasions with satisfactory results, so Charlie boy and his gang of "Bamber is guilty", clan will now be worried sick that at long last, a test is available to prove one way or another if a silencer which had blood at its top end (Muzzle) covering 8 baffles, with no blood at the bottom end (screw thread end) consisting of 9 baffles, was on the gun at the critical moment...

Charlie boy can scream all he likes...

The test can be done, the debris from inside that crucial section of the barrel can be scientifically examined, and if Sheila's blood is detected in the remnants of the debris removed, then the game will be up for the great pretenders...

How could Sheila's blood (in those circumstances) have passed beyong 9 spotlessly clean baffle plates and become deposited inside the recessed areas of the lands and grooves, straition and fine tooling marks in that crucial part of the guns barrel...

You are doing what you always do- making nonsense claims without providing any evidence.

"It was impossible for a cloth pull - through (MDF/1) to have entered into all of these inaccessible regions of the gun barrel"

Post evidence to prove that a pull through can't reach every crevice of a barrel and thus can't clean every crevice.  You can't because this claim is bogus.  My barrels a meticulous because I clean them USING a pull through.

You also insist blood of the victims "will definitely be found" though you have no basis to make such a claim.  There is no indication that blood is there to be found.  Moreover, it woudl be hard to prove blood of any victims is present because they will be reluctant to do chemical blood testing because it could desptry the DNA.  They woudl be likely to do a DNA test on anything found but have no way of proving if what they found was blood based or not.   In all likelihood though they wond find a thing.

You can scream as loud as you like it won't change the above one bit. 

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Don't forget the gap of blood and dna free baffles at the bottom end of the silencer which screws onto the muzzle end of the rifles barrel? A gap of blood and DNA free baffle of which there were 9,

Back spatter only travels a few inches into a weapon.  The fact no blood was found beyond the 8th baffle is expected and one of the signs that it was in fact back spatter.  If blood were found deeper then it would not be consistent with back spatter and had to arrive there from some different means.

[mike tesko]

The end of the anshulzt gun barrel has not yet been scientifically examined nor debris from that very small section of the barrel yet scientifically analyzed to see whether or not Sheila Caffells blood and her DNA was sucked back into the end of the guns barrel, when the police shot her under the chin with use of the anshulzt rifle during a re staging of the body on the bedroom floor, which went dramatically wrong, so no need to get yourself agitated just yet, better wait until the tests have been done...

Everybody will know where we stand at that point...

[mike tesko]

Cyclops reviewers suggest that only a very small section of the anshulzt gun barrel needs to be professionally cleaned amid stringent scientific control, to establish beyond reasonable doubt that a silencer was fitted to the barrel of this (anshulzt) rifle) gun when Sheila was shot under the chin and killed b- they say it is the ultimate test which experts can carry out with a view to putting the case to bed, once and for all...

[mike tesko]

Anshuzt rifle barrel had 8 lands and 8 grooves:-

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How utterly bizarre, that the prosecutions own gun expert, Fletcher, described some of the bullets associated with these shootings, as having wide lands and grooves, but others did not - how then, could all these differently marked rounds have been fired by use of the same anshuzt rifle?

[mike tesko]

Sorry, charlie boy, same rifle could not possibly have fired all 25 rounds used in the killing of three generations of the same family...

[mike tesko]

Look at the land and groove markings upon the surface of this bullet:-

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