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I will reveal the details of the proposed testing very soon...
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I will reveal the details of the proposed testing very soon...

Praise be to god, the almighty...
« Last Edit: June 20, 2014, 10:04:PM by mike tesko »
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Ok, lets begin...
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I will reveal the details of the proposed testing very soon...

There is no way to prove it wasn't used.  In the meantime the evidence that proves it was used no longer exists for DNA testing.  DNA testing of the blood determined by the defense and prosecution experts to be group A would not be able to prove the suppressor wasn't used but would be able to prove if that blood wasn't Sheila's which would mean no one could prove whether it was used or not.  Such doubts are resolved in the favor of defendants.

But the defense didn't keep the evidence nor did the prosecution so neither is avaialbel to see if DNA testing could have been done.  Most of the time such tests destroy DNA anyway but if either saved the tests they could have seen for sure whether DNA testing could be done or not.

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There is no way to prove it wasn't used.  In the meantime the evidence that proves it was used no longer exists for DNA testing.  DNA testing of the blood determined by the defense and prosecution experts to be group A would not be able to prove the suppressor wasn't used but would be able to prove if that blood wasn't Sheila's which would mean no one could prove whether it was used or not.  Such doubts are resolved in the favor of defendants.

But the defense didn't keep the evidence nor did the prosecution so neither is avaialbel to see if DNA testing could have been done.  Most of the time such tests destroy DNA anyway but if either saved the tests they could have seen for sure whether DNA testing could be done or not.

Basically, you are talking bullshit..

To coin a legal phrase, "Fuck off" with your negative attitude, there was never any evidence to prove that Jeremy killed anyone, I will provide the detail to prove beyond doubt that the Bamber owned sound moderator was not fitted to the gun barrel of the anshuzt rifle, when Sheila was shot and killed...

How the fuck can anyone try to negate evidence, without first of all hearing or learning what the proposed testing is?

I am all for free speech, but hey let me spell out what sort of fucking test I am proposing before you put your spin on it - you are one fucking rude dude.What sort of an advocate are you supposed to be, at least have the fucking decency to hear what I have got to say. You appear to be a fucking piece of shit, typical of someone who is corrupt and who enjoys working in a fucking corrupted, system...

 "Bollocks", at least give me the opportunity to have my say, before you respond, your arguments thus far in all other matters are simply not factual, you have nothing to back up or support anything you have been saying, thus far...
« Last Edit: June 20, 2014, 10:07:PM by mike tesko »
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Basically, you are talking bullshit..

To coin a legal phrase, "Fuck off" with your negative attitude, there was never any evidence to prove that Jeremy killed anyone, I will provide the detail to prove beyond doubt that the Bamber owned sound moderator was not fitted to the gun barrel of the anshuzt rifle, when Sheila was shot and killed...

How the fuck can anyone try to negate evidence, without first of all hearing or learning what the proposed testing is?

I am all for free speech, but hey let me spell out what sort of fucking test I am proposing before you put your spin on it - you are one fucking rude dude.What sort of an advocate are you supposed to be, at least have the fucking decency to hear what I have got to say. You appear to be a fucking piece of shit, typical of someone who is corrupt and who enjoys working in a fucking corrupted, system...

 "Bollocks", at least give me the opportunity to have my say, before you respond, your arguments thus far in all other matters are simply not factual, you have nothing to back up or support anything you have been saying, thus far...

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It is not necessary to have evidence to prove that Bamber murdered his family because all the available evidence overwhelmingly points to Sheila's innocence.  And as we all know, the invented telephone call from daddy Bamber to Jeremy leaves only one conclusion and that is that the shooter was Jeremy or Sheila.

Since Sheila is innocent that only leaves one possible suspect.  Bamber guilty as charged!

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Basically, you are talking bullshit..

To coin a legal phrase, "Fuck off" with your negative attitude, there was never any evidence to prove that Jeremy killed anyone, I will provide the detail to prove beyond doubt that the Bamber owned sound moderator was not fitted to the gun barrel of the anshuzt rifle, when Sheila was shot and killed...

How the fuck can anyone try to negate evidence, without first of all hearing or learning what the proposed testing is?

I am all for free speech, but hey let me spell out what sort of fucking test I am proposing before you put your spin on it - you are one fucking rude dude.What sort of an advocate are you supposed to be, at least have the fucking decency to hear what I have got to say. You appear to be a fucking piece of shit, typical of someone who is corrupt and who enjoys working in a fucking corrupted, system...

 "Bollocks", at least give me the opportunity to have my say, before you respond, your arguments thus far in all other matters are simply not factual, you have nothing to back up or support anything you have been saying, thus far...

It is not my fault if there is no such thing as a test which at this point could prove that it wasn't fitted. 

Since there is none possible that is why I wrote what I did.  If there were a possible test I would have suggested it already and in fact others would have suggested it years ago before I ever heard of this case.

If I am wrong I will admit it but I doubt I am and that there is some new procedure I never heard of before.   
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It is not my fault if there is no such thing as a test which at this point could prove that it wasn't fitted. 

Since there is none possible that is why I wrote what I did.  If there were a possible test I would have suggested it already and in fact others would have suggested it years ago before I ever heard of this case.

If I am wrong I will admit it but I doubt I am and that there is some new procedure I never heard of before.

Ok then chummy, but at least give me the opportunity to point out what needs to be done with the rifle. As I say, the test being proposed will establush beyond doubt that there was no sound moderator fitted to the barrell of the anshuzt rifle that fired the fatal shot under the chin which sent the fatal bullet up through the voud of her mouth into her brain. After which you can have your say based on the information which I have not yet provided. What is now known, is that the rifle in question only fired one of tge two bullets shot into her neck region. The one that was fired sideways across her throat was fired by a different gun...
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It is not necessary to have evidence to prove that Bamber murdered his family because all the available evidence overwhelmingly points to Sheila's innocence.  And as we all know, the invented telephone call from daddy Bamber to Jeremy leaves only one conclusion and that is that the shooter was Jeremy or Sheila.

Since Sheila is innocent that only leaves one possible suspect.  Bamber guilty as charged!

Special branch have yet to officially deny that the Bamber clan were not subject of one of thier protection programs. They are in the business of protecting people, groups of people, and families like the Bambers. They have yet to deny that the family were being monitored at the time of the shootings, or to say yeh or no that Ralph made communications to the protection officers as the tragedy was unfolding, or that someone at the scene activated the attack alarm at around 3.29am that was fitted at the farmhouse as part of the package that came with the measures applied by Soecial Branch...
« Last Edit: June 20, 2014, 10:13:PM by mike tesko »
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Lets start at the beginning:-

(1) - the anshulz rifle said to have been used in the shootings is still in existence, and therefore it has the potential to still produce admissible evidence in any future proceedings...

If anyone disagrees with this statement, please give your reasons for saying so, then I will move on to my proposal...
« Last Edit: June 20, 2014, 10:11:PM by mike tesko »
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We also now know almost everything there is to know about the various sound moderators, which for arguments sake I shall refer to as the silencer...

The silencer has not been destroyed, so yet again it has the potential to produce admissible evidence in any future proceedings...

Anyone who disagrees with this statement, who has something constructive to say about this, lets hear from you before I move on...
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Right, lets talk about the silencer first of all, consisting of a metal cylinder, a total of 17 metal baffle plates a top washer that sits internally between the baffles and the screw threaded metal cap...

Blood did not enter the silencer all the way through it. Blood was found to be present on the first six baffle plates...
« Last Edit: June 20, 2014, 10:14:PM by mike tesko »
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What is now known, is that the rifle in question only fired one of the two bullets shot into her neck region. The one that was fired sideways across her throat was fired by a different gun...

Is this yet another attempt to try and blame the TFG for shooting Sheila? 




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Right, lets talk about the silencer first of all, consisting of a metal cylinder, a total of 17 metal baffle plates a top washer that sits internally between the baffles and the screw threaded metal cap...

Blood did not enter the silencer all the way through it. Blood was found to be present on the first six baffle plates...

According to the defense's own expert it was found on the first 8 baffles, all visible blood had been removed by the prosecution but he detected microscopic blood drops on the first 8 baffles.  Beyond that no blood was detected by him. 
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