Is Sheila guilty?

[Alias]

Adam, why do you keep quoting posts?

[nugnug]

That's not true at all, a kid of 10 would be unlikely to recognize all actions taken.

At any rate he claims she watched him load a magazine not load the gun.  He claimed he took the magazine to another room to load it into the gun.   

That means even if his bogus story of going to shoot a rabbit with this rifle for the first time ever were true she would not have seen him stick it in the weapon let alone to charge the weapon (chamber a round).

i think your forgeting other posters here have used guns as well.

and we only have your word for what you cliam to have done.

[nugnug]

Adam, why do you keep quoting posts?

hes trying to bury other posts i think.

[nugnug]

i think i might start a thread about  the shooting party.

[Alias]

hes trying to bury other posts i think.

This habit of his is very annoying. The posts are there - no need to bloody quote them!!

[Jan]

i think i might start a thread about  the shooting party.

yes please do

I think it was mentioned in court as well as the statement crossed out as NO!

What gets me is that they rely on what the family said who apparently in the last few months had not even visited the  farm - they only met up for meetings about the caravan park as far as I can see.

I wonder what happened about people that might know such as farm workers / game keepers etc.

[lookout]

 They all perjured their way through--------------and people believed them ! Honesty certainly wasn't their best policy,,any of them.

[Adam]

yes please do

I think it was mentioned in court as well as the statement crossed out as NO!

What gets me is that they rely on what the family said who apparently in the last few months had not even visited the  farm - they only met up for meetings about the caravan park as far as I can see.

I wonder what happened about people that might know such as farm workers / game keepers etc.

Apparently ?

Farm workers are farm workers. There is no reason why they should be close to the family. If they knew things which could support Jeremy, the defence could call them up as witnesses.

[nugnug]

They all perjured their way through--------------and people believed them ! Honesty certainly wasn't their best policy,,any of them.

well the i dont know if she was there answer thats a blatent lie if they said it.

[lookout]

Apparently ?

Farm workers are farm workers. There is no reason why they should be close to the family. If they knew things which could support Jeremy, the defence could call them up as witnesses.

If you'd read the right literature,,it would have told you that most character references pertaining to Jeremy,,,were pushed to one side,,and not even the defence had privy to them. Also Mrs Foakes told one of the officers that " Jeremy didn't have the gumption to have murdered anyone ".Her statement went walkies. So what chance did Jeremy stand with all this going on ? They wanted a conviction,,and patsy Jeremy fitted the bill.

[Adam]

If you'd read the right literature,,it would have told you that most character references pertaining to Jeremy,,,were pushed to one side,,and not even the defence had privy to them. Also Mrs Foakes told one of the officers that " Jeremy didn't have the gumption to have murdered anyone ".Her statement went walkies. So what chance did Jeremy stand with all this going on ? They wanted a conviction,,and patsy Jeremy fitted the bill.

Several people testified on Jeremys behalf.

The defence had the option to call whoever they wanted at trial.

[nugnug]

if they knew they existed yes.

[lookout]

Several people testified on Jeremys behalf.

The defence had the option to call whoever they wanted at trial.

And the defence were duff.They needed a swift kick up the backside to get them going.

[Adam]

if they knew they existed yes.

That is where the defence can use the the person who knows most - Jeremy.

[nugnug]

well to call somone they have to know there was someone to call