Author Topic: Would the trial result in a different verdict if held in 2014 ?  (Read 9985 times)

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weather it wouldn't be admissible today would depend entirely on the judge.

but today the facta of finding it would probably be fully explained.

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The police didn't say it wasn't there.  The police said they only took from the closet what they thought was relevant to the crime and thus didn't pay attention to it or take it.  Only what was taken was listed on the forms, not all items they came across thus they didn't list other guns, bullets etc until they actually were taken later later on.


   

This is true. Why people say the police looked in the gun cupboard three times and it wasn't there I'll never know. Just more myth by people who haven't actually read the statements.

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This is true. Why people say the police looked in the gun cupboard three times and it wasn't there I'll never know. Just more myth by people who haven't actually read the statements.

Wasn´t it five times?

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Wasn´t it five times?

Possibly? But pretty sure it's 3 times. Been wrong before though.  :)

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Possibly? But pretty sure it's 3 times. Been wrong before though.  :)

I think it was Caroline who pointed out that it was five times - she is usually particular with detail.

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I think it was Caroline who pointed out that it was five times - she is usually particular with detail.

Five different officers noted that they had searched the gun cupboard. There is a document on the forum somewhere but I may have a copy of it - I'll have a look.
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Five different officers noted that they had searched the gun cupboard. There is a document on the forum somewhere but I may have a copy of it - I'll have a look.

No need, Caroline.  :)

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Five different officers noted that they had searched the gun cupboard. There is a document on the forum somewhere but I may have a copy of it - I'll have a look.

so thats a pretty good search then.

and no silencer found.
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They weren't looking for a silencer. Doesn't mean it wasn't there. Of course it was there, where else would the silencer be?

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they could hardly of missed it unless they had there eyes shut.

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Of course they will have seen it. But they didn't remove it- didn't need to.

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They weren't looking for a silencer. Doesn't mean it wasn't there. Of course it was there, where else would the silencer be?

Looking five times... it is a bit unlikely that they wouldn´t have spotted it, even though they weren´t specifically looking for it. What WERE they looking for then?

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Of course they will have seen it. But they didn't remove it- didn't need to.

none of them mentioned seeing it.

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Looking five times... it is a bit unlikely that they wouldn´t have spotted it, even though they weren´t specifically looking for it. What WERE they looking for then?

One was pretty snotty and rejected the claim he did a poor job by not finding it.  He claimed they were not told to look for it and he only took items he was told to.  He made it seem like he was following strict orders of his superiors almost as if bitter at them or something.  "I did as I was told and nothing more" as if his bosses were Nazis or he was just a lazy slacker. Others suggested they were just looking around to see if there was anything that popped out as significant. They were not as nasty while being interviewed.

We don't know for sure if the suppressor was there or not.  For all we know Jeremy put the box that had the ammo carrier and suppressor in subsequently.  But more likely police just didn't think it was of any significance because they were told a story of the gun being left out without the suppressor attached so figured it had no relevance.  They were aware of other firearms yet left them not just the accessories and bullets.  They decided too quickly not to pursue it as a homicide and take everything. They didn't even call the firearms expert to the scene. 

They had way to many people on the scene getting in eachother's way and not knowing what the others did.  To not call the firearms expert though just because they felt it was murder suicide seems pretty stupid. So they have everyone galavanting around except who they should have. 

They took photos, then moved things then others moved them back for more photos, then they moved them again and others moved them yet again for more photos.  The left hand did not know what the right hand was doing. None of this kind of crap would have happened in 2014 so we would have a much clearer picture of certain things.

   

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and what about the other 4.

i dont belive there were 5 blind policeman there that day.
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