Unidentified Male, seen at Whf, PC Myall, at 3.45am...

[mike tesko]

EP were desperately trying to identify a male suspect, who was seen by PC Myall at 3.45am...

[mike tesko]

Who could this unidentified male person have been?

[ngb1066]

Who could this unidentified male person have been?

Mike

Is your view that this was Nevill, or do you think it was someone else?

[Kaldin]

PC Myall wasn't even at the house at 3.45.

[mb1]

PC Myall wasn't even at the house at 3.45.

Suddenly, everything's been fast forwarded 10 minutes...

Even accepting that, on my reckoning they didn't exit the cars until 3.52am (4.02am)?

[Elizabeth]

Who could this unidentified male person have been?

Hmm, i wonder.

[Kaldin]

Who could this unidentified male person have been?

The Phantom of the Opera maybe?

[TheBrilliantMistake]

Nobody thought to ask him who he was? or give chase?

Sounds about right... let him go, then ask for him to come forward in the morning. Policing at its best.


Are you sure he didn't see a 'shady figure' - in which case it could have been any of 30 police officers ;-)

[Elizabeth]

Who could this unidentified male person have been?

The Phantom of the Opera maybe?

 

[TheBrilliantMistake]

One minute these pesky coppers are architects of a cover up, the next they are credible witnesses who saw events that support Jeremy.

I've ever so confused.

[curiousessex]

In my opinion, the shotgun approach in denying everything that has been presented and only using cherry picked snippets which could be useful will not do Jeremy any favours in the long run. Any credibility that exists will be / is being eroded / diminished.

[TheBrilliantMistake]

In my opinion, the shotgun approach in denying everything that has been presented and only using cherry picked snippets which could be useful will not do Jeremy any favours in the long run. Any credibility that exists will be / is being eroded / diminished.

I said exactly the same thing myself recently (and posted on here).
It undermines a few of the more credible points that the defence should go 'all in' on.

Namely the 'discovery' of the silencer - and the Boutflours high familiarity with guns (more so than the police themselves) (excluding firearms team)
Mugford's testimony, and more to the point the 1 month delay.
Lack on ballastic evidence to prove silencer was used (it all stems from the assumption the 'find' was genuine)

[mb1]

In my opinion, the shotgun approach in denying everything that has been presented and only using cherry picked snippets which could be useful will not do Jeremy any favours in the long run. Any credibility that exists will be / is being eroded / diminished.

Is anyone willing/feel able to offer a step by step walkthrough of the current defence position - or, at least, that known before the CCRC advised that it did not plan to make a referral?

[TheBrilliantMistake]

In my opinion, the shotgun approach in denying everything that has been presented and only using cherry picked snippets which could be useful will not do Jeremy any favours in the long run. Any credibility that exists will be / is being eroded / diminished.

Is anyone willing/feel able to offer a step by step walkthrough of the current defence position - or, at least, that known before the CCRC advised that it did not plan to make a referral?

I'd like to have a step by step walkthrough of the defence, but I've not brought my wellies, and the smell's a bit strong.


I actually asked for this a few threads ago... because I knew the defence seemed reluctant to ever spell ALL the defence out in one go... because it would look ludicrous. In small portions it just about sounds credible, albeit with slightly eccentric interpretations, but when added up - it's crazy than a box of frogs.

[Kaldin]

It's all a bit like the boy who cried wolf isn't it? There have been so many red herrings, so much speculation presented as fact, and so many unrealistic claims that if some new evidence does actually come up it may well be ignored.

Perhaps the defence is hoping that if the appeal goes ahead, the judges will release Jeremy just to get some peace.