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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #660 on: May 08, 2014, 11:47:AM »
Following on from CC talking about the party,he says "On this occasion,he had dyed his hair and eyebrows black (his natural colour being brown),but his dark demeanour had the effect of being theatrically sinister rather than making him look like someone who was trying to keep up with fashion trends. It also somehow added to my uneasiness. In Search of the Rainbows End. Page 26 -27.

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« Reply #661 on: May 08, 2014, 12:57:PM »
 " She's finally done it ",,said Colin-----------then he changed his stance at the behest of others,,knowing that there was every possibility that she'd carried out the killings.

What DID make everyone change tack ? Did they find anything to substantiate their accusations. No,,only that nobody liked the guy ! ( Jeremy )

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« Reply #662 on: May 08, 2014, 01:20:PM »
Just ordered Colin“s book on Amazon.uk. Last time I checked it was quite expensive (more than 20 pounds), but now it has dropped in price - I got my copy for 0.01 pounds (+shipping)!!!
So if anybody needs a copy, you can get it for practically no money - there are a few copies left!  ;D
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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #663 on: May 08, 2014, 02:49:PM »
Following on from CC talking about the party,he says "On this occasion,he had dyed his hair and eyebrows black (his natural colour being brown),but his dark demeanour had the effect of being theatrically sinister rather than making him look like someone who was trying to keep up with fashion trends. It also somehow added to my uneasiness. In Search of the Rainbows End. Page 26 -27.
I died my hair once when it was beginning to go grey. When my friend from Cornwall visited us he said to me, "Your hair is exeedingly black lately". :)

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #664 on: May 08, 2014, 03:08:PM »
i find you cant win with funereal you're e there showing to much emotion or not enough.

at funerals id consider any behavior normal.

people react to those things in all different ways.
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« Reply #665 on: May 08, 2014, 03:12:PM »
i find you cant win with funereal you're e there showing to much emotion or not enough.

at funerals id consider any behavior normal.

people react to those things in all different ways.


Damned if you do and damned if you don't, eh Nugs? ;D ;D ;D

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #666 on: May 09, 2014, 01:24:PM »
Following on from CC talking about the party,he says "On this occasion,he had dyed his hair and eyebrows black (his natural colour being brown),but his dark demeanour had the effect of being theatrically sinister rather than making him look like someone who was trying to keep up with fashion trends. It also somehow added to my uneasiness. In Search of the Rainbows End. Page 26 -27.

Interesting because JM stated that Jeremy dyed his hair on the Sunday just before she returned to London. I'll have to search for the reference, can't remember where I read it. Sounds like he just fancied a change and dyed it for the party. Although I have never seen the significance of his hair colour in relation to the murders?
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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #667 on: May 09, 2014, 01:29:PM »
Interesting because JM stated that Jeremy dyed his hair on the Sunday just before she returned to London. I'll have to search for the reference, can't remember where I read it. Sounds like he just fancied a change and dyed it for the party. Although I have never seen the significance of his hair colour in relation to the murders?
Neither have I Caroline, it was quite common for guys to dye their hair in the 80s wasn't it?  Mybe not in deepest Essex but Jeremy was pretty right on with the fashion world imo.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #668 on: May 09, 2014, 01:31:PM »
OK, back to normal -  ;D ;D

I have just had an email from a solicitor friend who I asked about ringgate - Apparently as executor Basil was well within his rights to stop destruction of property belonging to Neville and June until the wills had been settled. I guess he thought he might as well preserve Sheila's jewellery also.
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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #669 on: May 09, 2014, 01:36:PM »
OK, back to normal -  ;D ;D

I have just had an email from a solicitor friend who I asked about ringgate - Apparently as executor Basil was well within his rights to stop destruction of property belonging to Neville and June until the wills had been settled. I guess he thought he might as well preserve Sheila's jewellery also.
Interesting Caroline.  I find it hard to believe that 'greedy' Jeremy would have ordered rings to have been destroyed.  Have no idea what June's engagement ring was worth but was probably worth a reasonable amount, surely the possession of the ring would have given 'greedy' Jeremy more pleasure than ensuring they were destroyed to upset his rellies?

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #670 on: May 09, 2014, 01:44:PM »
Interesting Caroline.  I find it hard to believe that 'greedy' Jeremy would have ordered rings to have been destroyed.  Have no idea what June's engagement ring was worth but was probably worth a reasonable amount, surely the possession of the ring would have given 'greedy' Jeremy more pleasure than ensuring they were destroyed to upset his rellies?

Well, there is another side (if you'll forgive me for playing devil's advocate - Martin  ;)), It could also be that he was spooked by the jewellery because they died wearing it but he didn't want the relatives to have it either. But who knows, Jeremy doesn't seem the sentimental type so I'm not sure why he didn't want the rings removed.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #671 on: May 09, 2014, 01:44:PM »
Interesting because JM stated that Jeremy dyed his hair on the Sunday just before she returned to London. I'll have to search for the reference, can't remember where I read it. Sounds like he just fancied a change and dyed it for the party. Although I have never seen the significance of his hair colour in relation to the murders?


Also of interest is that he SUPPOSEDLY dyed his eyebrows. I was colouring male heads very successfully during the 70's/80's but never had any success when it came to eyebrows. Due to the brow hair structure, tint just sat on the surface. Not to be recommended when walking in the rain.

Of greater interest is why a person open minded enough to explore the occult/alternative therapies/live a fairly Bohemian life style should have given a second thought to men colouring their hair.

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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #672 on: May 09, 2014, 01:48:PM »
OK, back to normal -  ;D ;D

I have just had an email from a solicitor friend who I asked about ringgate - Apparently as executor Basil was well within his rights to stop destruction of property belonging to Neville and June until the wills had been settled. I guess he thought he might as well preserve Sheila's jewellery also.

Did you ask if this was the case when, like in this case, Co#k acted against the expressed wish of the next of kin - without informing him?
I find that plain wrong.

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« Reply #673 on: May 09, 2014, 01:51:PM »
Well, there is another side (if you'll forgive me for playing devil's advocate - Martin  ;)), It could also be that he was spooked by the jewellery because they died wearing it but he didn't want the relatives to have it either. But who knows, Jeremy doesn't seem the sentimental type so I'm not sure why he didn't want the rings removed.

Sometimes people who "act" and appear to be cool on the surface, are the most sensitive and sentimental. They need armour of coolness not to appear too vulnerable.
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Re: The Noble Cause Framing Theory
« Reply #674 on: May 09, 2014, 01:56:PM »
Did you ask if this was the case when, like in this case, Co#k acted against the expressed wish of the next of kin - without informing him?
I find that plain wrong.

Yes, it doesn't matter what the next of kin wanted, the ring was part of the estate and Jeremy would only have had the right to make such a request once the will was settled. As the funeral was before all the legalities were finalised, Basil didn't do anything wrong. I guess you could argue that he had no right to take Sheila's ring because Jeremy was next of kin and she left no will but it seems pointless to have saved June's rings and let Sheila's be destroyed.
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