The Noble Cause Framing Theory

[Alias]

Alias it has been said that the rifle was heated in the Aga to cause the burn marks why would Jeremy do this unless he wanted to make it look like the killings were done by an irrational person and not him but just don't think he knew enough about religion to work this out this is the main reason I cannot put him at the scene plus he would have needed an accomplice and that would not have been a professional hitman.

Yes, the theory is that the rifle was heated in the Aga. Maybe that is what happened.
Jeremy would have had to be incredibly busy staging the whole thing to look like the murders were committed by "Sheila the nutter". Placing a Bible on Sheila for one thing. I doubt somehow that Jeremy would have been "deep" enough to come up with that. Then shooting her twice to make it look like suicide! He is a regular genius! Oh, forgot, unscrewed the silencer with blobs of blood and hair on it and put it in the gun cupboard! 
I have to stop thinking about this case - it drives ME nuts! 

[lookout]

The rifle would have showed signs of having been heated,,so I don't think it was that,somehow. You know what I mean ? Hot metal gets a discolouring and there was no mention of that.
Maybe a poker left over the Aga,,as it was still going so someone must have felt cold------August ?

[Caroline]

They may have been old wounds?

[Alias]

They may have been old wounds?

I came to that conclusion a while back, but then thought the wounds do look fresh. Of course hard to tell exactly from the photo.
If they are old wounds, it is strange that Sheila (wound on stomach), June (black eye) AND Nevill (burnmarks) all had old wounds at the time of the murders.

[Caroline]

I came to that conclusion a while back, but then thought the wounds do look fresh. Of course hard to tell exactly from the photo.
If they are old wounds, it is strange that Sheila (wound on stomach), June (black eye) AND Nevill (burnmarks) all had old wounds at the time of the murders.

June's black eye has always made me wonder, especially the excuse she allegedly gave about walking into a post/door?

[Martin]

Caroline's doubts carry more weight than the whole of the red forum.

That is exactly the point I’m making. And like Bob Woffinden, she is in a position of influence. She is an administrator on a forum set up by Mike Tesko to raise awareness of Jeremy’s plight as a wrongly convicted man.

Notice how the guilters are delighted that Caroline is now in effect working for them. She has even got Mat coming along to give her his support.

She is now, in effect, a Trojan horse in the forum.

You can’t leave those considerations out of it. Talk about  “opinions” is naïve. Pro guilt people work as group. They don’t bother with doubts and opinions.

Such babes in the wood!

Her new stance is in effect a big propaganda coup for the Ian Stephens and John Lamberton group and others with similar objectives. And that’s regardless of whether or not she sees it like that herself.

I think she knows exactly what she is doing.

[Martin]

Listen, sweetheart, I’m only a private dick, but I know much more than you do about the ways of the world.

[Caroline]

That is exactly the point I’m making. And like Bob Woffinden, she is in a position of influence. She is an administrator on a forum set up by Mike Tesko to raise awareness of Jeremy’s plight as a wrongly convicted man.

Notice how the guilters are delighted that Caroline is now in effect working for them. She has even got Mat coming along to give her his support.

She is now, in effect, a Trojan horse in the forum.

You can’t leave those considerations out of it. Talk about  “opinions” is naïve. Pro guilt people work as group. They don’t bother with doubts and opinions.

Such babes in the wood!

Her new stance is in effect a big propaganda coup for the Ian Stephens and John Lamberton group and others with similar objectives. And that’s regardless of whether or not she sees it like that herself.

I think she knows exactly what she is doing.

I think you should see someone!!

[Caroline]

Listen, sweetheart, I’m only a private dick, but I know much more than you do about the ways of the world.

This isn't the place for personal confessions!! At the moment, I'd say you were a public one too!

[Caroline]

That is exactly the point I’m making. And like Bob Woffinden, she is in a position of influence. She is an administrator on a forum set up by Mike Tesko to raise awareness of Jeremy’s plight as a wrongly convicted man.

Notice how the guilters are delighted that Caroline is now in effect working for them. She has even got Mat coming along to give her his support.

She is now, in effect, a Trojan horse in the forum.

You can’t leave those considerations out of it. Talk about  “opinions” is naïve. Pro guilt people work as group. They don’t bother with doubts and opinions.

Such babes in the wood!

Her new stance is in effect a big propaganda coup for the Ian Stephens and John Lamberton group and others with similar objectives. And that’s regardless of whether or not she sees it like that herself.

I think she knows exactly what she is doing.

I certainly do, I'm stating my opinion just like you are but you seem more interested in me than the Jeremy Bamber case. People will talk!! 

[Martin]

I think you should see someone!!

I feel that in the light of your position as an administrator on a pro Bamber forum, you should expect to be questioned closely if, as you have done, you make it clear that you have changed your stance on the case from one of broadly identifying with Bamber’s supporters, to one where you are giving support to people who believe he is guilty.

Even if you don’t chose to see it in those terms and maintain you are only trying to be objective, your position is one which brings with it a responsibility to consider carefully the effect of what you are saying.

[Caroline]

I feel that in the light of your position as an administrator on a pro Bamber forum, you should expect to be questioned closely if, as you have done, you make it clear that you have changed your stance on the case from one of broadly identifying with Bamber’s supporters, to one where you are giving support to people who believe he is guilty.

Even if you don’t chose to see it in those terms and maintain you are only trying to be objective, your position is one which brings with it a responsibility to consider carefully the effect of what you are saying.

This board is for both sides of the argument. I am sure you would be happy with people hanging on your every word, agreeing with all you have to say. If people aren't happy with me being an administrator/moderator here, given that i admit to having doubts, then that's fine but I will NOT compromise my opinions just to suit YOU!!

[Martin]

I certainly do, I'm stating my opinion just like you are but you seem more interested in me than the Jeremy Bamber case. People will talk!! 

I’m beginning to think that you may really be so naïve and that I have been unfair. But believe me, I know what I’m talking about, so I have to assume the worst. I am familiar with hate sites and the kind of people who post on them.

 

[Caroline]

I’m beginning to think that you may really be so naïve and that I have been unfair. But believe me, I know what I’m talking about, so I have to assume the worst. I am familiar with hate sites and the kind of people who post on them.

I  don't post on them and perhaps you have spent too long on them because at the moment the only person doing any harassing here is YOU!! This is a prime example of propaganda. Try to make the target sound stupid while passing yourself off as an expert. Talk about pots and kettles!!

[Caroline]

I'm off to bed now Martin, I'll leave you to your conspiracy theories - nighty night!!