Did Jeremy Make a Freudian Slip?

[lookout]

I'd like to add by saying that he wasn't the only one who lied.

[lookout]

P.S.Carol Anne Lees' book is out today.

[Jan]

That was exactly what I was saying and was the reason that I personally did not want to get close to him. He has played certain females to his advantage all along. He uses them (I can name them all) and then he rejects them. I've even known him to almost break up marriages because of the way he attracts women. Not only that he also uses most people that are sincerely there to help him. But he certainly has upset a lot of women, even if they do say that their concern is only for justice. I don't like him. period and no one can accuse me of being a Bamber supporter as they have done. All I want is to see justice done. Because I am almost certain that is has not been done?

Agree with all that as well - just because he may be a bad person , it does not make him a murderer. And if he was set up just to "close" the case , he deserves his freedom.

[lookout]

With what Graham's just posted,,Jeremy should stay locked up for his own safety.

[guest154]

With respect to Martin, your post is bullshit. Anyone that has followed this board for even a small ammount of time has known Caroline has beleived in Jeremy's innocence.

to say that she got close to Jeremy to find out information, and would be posting more things like this topic.. is laughable.

And that's coming from someone who hasn't always seen eye to eye with her.

Edit : But as I said on the red, now that Caroline has broken rank and is questioning things openly (how dare she!  ) She'll be lucky to last three months before she's a black sheep.

[lookout]

Hey Mat,,speaking of black sheep,,I'm so glad that John used the " p " word in describing Sheilas' behaviour,,as I was lambasted on here for using the very same description,,by none other than the one who joined yourselves from here. Initials HG.
The word is promiscuous,by the way.
I wonder if the same one will pull John up about that ?

[guest154]

Hi Lookout.
What P word was that, I haven't been on the red for a few days. I'm guessing Psycho?

[Alias]

Hi Lookout.
What P word was that, I haven't been on the red for a few days. I'm guessing Psycho?

Hi mat, read Lookout´s post again - she wrote the word in it. 

[guest154]

Oh, so she did!

specsavers here I come. 

[Jan]

With respect to Martin, your post is bullshit. Anyone that has followed this board for even a small ammount of time has known Caroline has beleived in Jeremy's innocence.

to say that she got close to Jeremy to find out information, and would be posting more things like this topic.. is laughable.

And that's coming from someone who hasn't always seen eye to eye with her.

Edit : But as I said on the red, now that Caroline has broken rank and is questioning things openly (how dare she!  ) She'll be lucky to last three months before she's a black sheep.

Not sure about that - I think we are a pretty patient lot - up for good discussion - so unless she stoops to the level of posts by Adam - then I personally don't see it as a problem.

[Jane]

Not sure about that - I think we are a pretty patient lot - up for good discussion - so unless she stoops to the level of posts by Adam - then I personally don't see it as a problem.

JANSUS!!!! May you be forgiven!!!!! Mentioning Caroline and Adam in the same breath.................sorry, POST

[grahameb]

With respect to Martin, your post is bullshit. Anyone that has followed this board for even a small ammount of time has known Caroline has beleived in Jeremy's innocence.

to say that she got close to Jeremy to find out information, and would be posting more things like this topic.. is laughable.

And that's coming from someone who hasn't always seen eye to eye with her.

Edit : But as I said on the red, now that Caroline has broken rank and is questioning things openly (how dare she!  ) She'll be lucky to last three months before she's a black sheep.

With all due respect Mat I have a lot of respect for Caroline and I know others do as well. It isn't the fact that people disagree with oneanother that some are disliked. It is the way they conduct themselves and the arrogant way in which they argue that turns others against them. Indeed I didn't like some pro Bambers as well as anti Bambers not because of their views. But because of the way they put those views over. I don't excuse myself from this kind of arguing either.
Also I admire Carolines position of doubting Jeremy's innocence because she has arrived at that position out of investigation of certain facts. But show me a guilter who has changed their stance out of pure reason and nothing else.
Most of the guilters that I have encountered have held their stance simply because they haven't bothered to reason things out. But rather hold their position out of pure hate for Jeremy. Several times I have put legitimate questions to some. Yet rather than study the things I have said in a reasonable way some have just done their best to counter my suggestions without taking the time to even wonder if what I said was reasonable.
But Caroline on the other hand has reached her decision from carefully questioning Bamber himself. How many guilters I wonder have even bothered to write to Jeremy? I trow not many?

[Neil]

They say every criminal makes at least one mistake which gives them away. It may be subtle and on the face of it, may seem unimportant until you think about it. The following excerpt from one of Ann Eaton's statements has bugged me since first reading it - a perfectly innocent comment about his father's wallet doesn't seem too sinister on the surface. However, how did Jeremy know how much was in the wallet? Is it likely that Neville would broadcast the contents of his wallet? Such things are surely not discussed - but Jeremy knew how much was in the wallet and the other contents - as though he had recently looked inside it.   

Did he count it after killing five people, leaving it behind to claim later? And in his haste to find it, did he make a Freudian slip?

There could be any number of explanations, as to how he knew of the wallets contents.

Perhaps Jeremy, when replying to you, regarded your question as irrelevant.  Surely, even if he had actually 'slipped up', he could very easily have made something up, to satisfy your request. 

I am obviously unaware of the exact nature of your correspondence with Jeremy.  Did/does he routinely answer your case related questions?

[Jan]

Not sure about that - I think we are a pretty patient lot - up for good discussion - so unless she stoops to the level of posts by Adam - then I personally don't see it as a problem.

yep - only joking!

they are worlds apart - and I respect Caroline as obvious her experience comes from a completely different angle ( not books!

[Caroline]

I don´t find it that strange that Jeremy knew approximately what was in Nevill´s wallet. He was at the farm every day working, knowing the routines of his father and the running of the farm in detail.
He would very likely know when Nevill went to his bank the last time to get cash. People are creatures of habit, Nevill would probably take out the same amount every time he went to the bank - my guess is that this amount was 500 pounds, then Jeremy would be able to chance a guess as to what was in the wallet compared to the time between last visit to the bank and the murders.

I can´t see how Jeremy, who broke into the caravan park and took cash would look into his father´s wallet that night and NOT take any. Doesn´t ring plausible that he would have left such a large amount in the wallet (how much was in the wallet exactly btw?)

I CAN see that it is strange that he didn´t answer Caroline properly - or more correctly, in two versions.
Hasn´t Aunt Agatha said about Jeremy that he lies constantly? She still thinks he is innocent, some people are habitual liars, perhaps Jeremy is one of them.

As I said, if it was all above board and innocent, why dodge the question? He said he thought the answer was 'No or I didn't' - so he remembered the answer but not the question. He had the letter, he could have just gone and read it. Then a few months later while discussing something about AE he described to me the same scene mentioned in AE statement.

He didn't need to take the money then, he had no idea that AE or anyone else would take it but it was the FIRST thing he went looking for when he went back to WHF. He certainly wouldn't have taken the wallet with him - he wouldn't risk being found with it. Also, I'd have thought farm petty cash and wages money would be kept in the office, in the safe.

I'm not saying he's guilty or the fact that he lied about it makes him guilty BUT it's not something I can dismiss out of hand.