Did Jeremy Make a Freudian Slip?

[grahameb]

I think Caroline was right to mention her doubts regarding Jeremy's father's wallet. But for the life of me I can't see that his inability to answer her question makes him guilty? It appears that Ann Eaton was the one who took it, yet we we don't think that she is guilty.

[grahameb]

I've made my views quite clear about Jeremy and his dodgy nature and have also said that he would not be my choice of friend.
The way he treats those people who have done a lot for him and how he finds it so easy to reject them and even to lie to them. This is probably why so many people think that he is guilty.
But as for myself, even though I don't like him I still believe in his innocence regarding the murders rather than his guilt. I don't think I will change my mind just because he knew how much money was in his father's wallet.

[lookout]

Grahame,,my argument would be---------where was it ? How much was in it to begin with,,and how much was in it when it was " found ". I've got a bad inquiring mind you see,,but I do like answers after my questions.

[lookout]

Mine's a question that would be difficult to answer,I think.
Why,,I don't know,if everyone purports to being honest.

[lookout]

Gerrie Nel would have soon found out all the answers.

[wilf]

a farmer a small bussiness man, its no supprise that anyone on the farm would know roughly what he had on him. 400 to 500 pound is an aprox sum 20% vairable . I see nothing suspicious in this. even today you average self employed farmer, mechanic, builder etc etc would carry  not only cards but cash for chance purchases (some not on the books possibly) and daily expenses.
wouldn't you know roughly what someone close to you would have carried in the cash days?

wilf

[Jane]

I've made my views quite clear about Jeremy and his dodgy nature and have also said that he would not be my choice of friend.
The way he treats those people who have done a lot for him and how he finds it so easy to reject them and even to lie to them. This is probably why so many people think that he is guilty.
But as for myself, even though I don't like him I still believe in his innocence regarding the murders rather than his guilt. I don't think I will change my mind just because he knew how much money was in his father's wallet.

Grahame, I think for me, regardless of whether it was a wallet or a wombat, the question would be if he lied about it, what else may he have lied about.

[lookout]

April,,this would be down to us to do a general overall look at the case,,starting with how he passed the polygraph test with " flying colours " as was described,,,,,along with him getting past 27 psychiatrists/doctors/professional health-workers in finding him " of sound mind ",etc etc.
A psychopath who has slipped through the net-------------as many do,,or an extremely clever man who can hide the fact such as Shipman did ?
Then you have the likes of Pistorious who breaks down constantly.

[lookout]

I'm not playing devils advocate,,as I don't believe that he's guilty of anything.

[grahameb]

Grahame, I think for me, regardless of whether it was a wallet or a wombat, the question would be if he lied about it, what else may he have lied about.

Well of course he lied about a lot of things. We know that. That was his nature as I said. Why question that now just because he can't answer Caroline about how much his dad had in his wallet. We all know he was a liar. Why are we surprised when we suspect him of this very thing?

[Roch]

a farmer a small bussiness man, its no supprise that anyone on the farm would know roughly what he had on him. 400 to 500 pound is an aprox sum 20% vairable . I see nothing suspicious in this. even today you average self employed farmer, mechanic, builder etc etc would carry  not only cards but cash for chance purchases (some not on the books possibly) and daily expenses.
wouldn't you know roughly what someone close to you would have carried in the cash days?

wilf

I've also factored this in in my thinking.  Good post Wilf.

[Jane]

Well of course he lied about a lot of things. We know that. That was his nature as I said. Why question that now just because he can't answer Caroline about how much his dad had in his wallet. We all know he was a liar. Why are we surprised when we suspect him of this very thing?

Grahame, I think the difference lays in the objectiveness of knowing that a person is capable of telling lies to others and the subjectiveness of suspecting that person is telling lies when one has formed a personal relationship with them.

[lookout]

Well of course he lied about a lot of things. We know that. That was his nature as I said. Why question that now just because he can't answer Caroline about how much his dad had in his wallet. We all know he was a liar. Why are we surprised when we suspect him of this very thing?

Grahame,,I suspect that Jeremy would have been a bit of a bragger too,,and being an immature person to begin with,,would never have taken into account any large amount that his father would have had,,such as there may have been an unexpected outlay of some sort. Jeremy would have just looked at such an amount as being " his fathers' wealth ".

[Jan]

I think Caroline is perfectly entitled to make a post about her concerns. After all it is supposed to be a discussion forum. However I think there could be some simple explanations

I agree with the theories about how much money NB would carry around - that might seem a lot of money in those days - however he was quite a wealthy farmer and that may be what he normally carried about - this was in the days before hundreds of cash machines were around , no internet banking , and he probably did a lot of deals in cash .So JB may have been assuming that was the amount.

Why would he mention it to the police and put the spotlight on it being missing ? That would not tie up with the "scenario" he is supposed to have spent so many months perfecting

Anne may have put "words into his mouth" so to speak - perhaps he did tell the police it was missing but did not mention the amount?

Also I would think after years and years of reading all sorts of statements/documents / articles the truth about some small details has become blurred as between what he said / did  and what has been written by others.

I don't think he like the police - full stop- and therefore would have delighted in the implication that they may have taken things from the house

IMO

[grahameb]

Grahame, I think the difference lays in the objectiveness of knowing that a person is capable of telling lies to others and the subjectiveness of suspecting that person is telling lies when one has formed a personal relationship with them.

That was exactly what I was saying and was the reason that I personally did not want to get close to him. He has played certain females to his advantage all along. He uses them (I can name them all) and then he rejects them. I've even known him to almost break up marriages because of the way he attracts women. Not only that he also uses most people that are sincerely there to help him. But he certainly has upset a lot of women, even if they do say that their concern is only for justice. I don't like him. period and no one can accuse me of being a Bamber supporter as they have done. All I want is to see justice done. Because I am almost certain that is has not been done?