Shooter would have run out of bullets before finishing of both parents, clue...

[mike tesko]

Ralph was shot eight times, June was shot seven times, a total of 15 bullets, but the ammunition magazine for the anshulz rifle could only hold ten rounds. This would have produced a break in the shooting sequence to enable the shooter to reload with additional bullets...

[mike tesko]

Ralph was shot eight times, June was shot seven times, a total of 15 bullets, but the ammunition magazine for the anshulz rifle could only hold ten rounds. This would have produced a break in the shooting sequence to enable the shooter to reload with additional bullets...

This delay may have been sufficient to enable Ralph to go downstairs to the kitchen to make the calls to Jeremy, and the police...

[Caroline]

But in such an instance wouldn't he have said more than simply "she's got the gun"? "She's trying to kill us''? (Or something along  those lines) would have sounded more urgent?

[lookout]

I very much doubt that at any point would Neville have thought that Sheila meant business. It may,,or may not have happened that way before where Sheila was wavering a gun/rifle,and because Jeremy was at the end of the phone,,between him and his father have managed to calm her down in the past.

[lookout]

I've been reading a very sad story about a grandmother of two boys. One child was two,,and the other was six months old.
The grandmother had gone to the day centre to pick up the children and take them home-----------but instead,,she took them to a nearby lake and shot them,,then turned the gun on herself.

Mother and daughter had had a volatile relationship,with the mother having been a controlling person,,but she was also sick as well,and suffered Dissociative Identity Disorder,,a mental illness where the patient feels as though they're " living outside themselves ",and feel compelled to do something that they know they shouldn't.
The symptoms are interesting,,as is the history of mother and daughter relationship. On committing suicide,the mother left a suicide note saying that her daughter didn't deserve to have the children.

[lookout]

This tragedy happened last year,,in the States,and because of the Freedom of Information act,the press have only recently obtained this report about the womans past,where she made a few attempts at suicide,which then threw a light on her mental health,stating that she'd also always been in conflict with her daughter. The mental health issues giving a motive for the murders of her grandsons.

[Jane]

But in such an instance wouldn't he have said more than simply "she's got the gun"? "She's trying to kill us''? (Or something along  those lines) would have sounded more urgent?

Caroline, I think if only one shot had been fired, Nevill would have said "Sheila is firing/using/shooting........"His words give no indication of this having occurred, which causes me to think she was doing no more than sitting/standing and gripping the gun and I think she had completely withdrawn into herself and was unaware of what was being said. She could have been standing next to Nevill when he made the call and not reacting to his words.

[lookout]

This tragedy happened last year,,in the States,and because of the Freedom of Information act,the press have only recently obtained this report about the womans past,where she made a few attempts at suicide,which then threw a light on her mental health,stating that she'd also always been in conflict with her daughter. The mental health issues giving a motive for the murders of her grandsons.

Among other things written in the suicide note was a reference to the daughter,which said " she ( the mother ) wanted her to feel the loss of a child ".
The husband of the grandmother said he never thought she was capable of doing such a thing.
Reconcilliation between mother and daughter was spoken of,and there was no indication to either the people at the care centre where the children were,,or anyone,,that anything was amiss with the woman,as she was her normal cheery self---------------scary,eh.?

[Alias]

Among other things written in the suicide note was a reference to the daughter,which said " she ( the mother ) wanted her to feel the loss of a child ".
The husband of the grandmother said he never thought she was capable of doing such a thing.
Reconcilliation between mother and daughter was spoken of,and there was no indication to either the people at the care centre where the children were,,or anyone,,that anything was amiss with the woman,as she was her normal cheery self---------------scary,eh.?

Oh YES! Just goes to show you can never know what is going on in other people´s minds, not even the ones closest to you.

[vidvic]

Caroline, I think if only one shot had been fired, Nevill would have said "Sheila is firing/using/shooting........"His words give no indication of this having occurred, which causes me to think she was doing no more than sitting/standing and gripping the gun and I think she had completely withdrawn into herself and was unaware of what was being said. She could have been standing next to Nevill when he made the call and not reacting to his words.

That's if there was a call? There is no proof of one?

[wilf]

"she's got the gun" means exactly that, if he'd been shot he would have surely have said "she's got the gun I've been shot" you just would'nt forget to mention a gun shot wound I feel sure that no shots had been fired when the telephone calls were made.

wilf

[wilf]

That's if there was a call? There is no proof of one?

I dont see how at least one telephone call can be discounted  how do you explain the police coms' log? if they were fabricated it throws the whole case into conspiracy waters!

wilf

[Alias]

"she's got the gun" means exactly that, if he'd been shot he would have surely have said "she's got the gun I've been shot" you just would'nt forget to mention a gun shot wound I feel sure that no shots had been fired when the telephone calls were made.

wilf

I think the first thing you´d say would be: I have been shot. Or, Sheila shot me.

[lookout]

As I've already mentioned,,was it a gun ( as in shotgun ) or the rifle ? Obviously I wouldn't know if Neville referred the shooters individually,,or just as part of the armoury,,being as Sheilas prints were on the shotgun.
It's something that Jeremy would know,probably.

[Jane]

That's if there was a call? There is no proof of one?

Vic, but for the fact that there's no proof that there WASN'T one, that would have been one to you and nil points for me. :D