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« Reply #225 on: April 13, 2014, 11:50:AM »
But I would have thought from what we have seen on here there was already evidence to show she was capable of the crime because of her illness and we already know some of that was not released to the jury . So it must be something quite damning.



Jansus, what we "on here" know is ten times more than the jury knew. There are enough of us here to make a VERY different case for the potential behaviour of someone suffering PS, APART from that a locum had made a HUGE and unsupported decision to reduce her meds which had the potential to cause her to act violently. Did the judge not tell the jury that they didn't need to prove Jeremy did it, only that it was POSSIBLE for him to have done it. He COULD have said EXACTLY the same of Sheila.

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« Reply #226 on: April 13, 2014, 12:06:PM »
When you think about it,,this poor man has re-lived the horrors of what had happened,,every solitary day for the past 29 years,,by looking back and memorizing every single detail,in his fight for freedom.
We all know what it's like,,I think,,to suffer the odd flashback of something unpleasant,,but Jeremy has been forced to think back at every aspect of what went on.
People have landed themselves in a psychiatrists chair for far less of a trauma than what this man has suffered. 
He'll be very lucky to come out of all this unscathed in some way. I'm hoping he isn't ( scathed ) of course,but to lose more than half of your life like Jeremy has done,requires nerves of steel.

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« Reply #227 on: April 13, 2014, 12:09:PM »
whatever it is,,it's certainly going to help Jeremys' cause.

I wouldn't build your hopes up.  The relevant authorities in the main seem dead set against a third appeal for JB.  If the slightest possible reason can be found to dismiss something, you can rest assured, it will be found.

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« Reply #228 on: April 13, 2014, 12:16:PM »
I wouldn't build your hopes up.  The relevant authorities in the main seem dead set against a third appeal for JB.  If the slightest possible reason can be found to dismiss something, you can rest assured, it will be found.

Also dont forget, we are about to see a guilter book come out which I suspect might have the backing of relatives and will no doubt receive some publicity from pro-guilt journalists or journalists who are simply not aware regarding the brevity of defence arguments.

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« Reply #229 on: April 13, 2014, 12:21:PM »
Also dont forget, we are about to see a guilter book come out which I suspect might have the backing of relatives and will no doubt receive some publicity from pro-guilt journalists or journalists who are simply not aware regarding the brevity of defence arguments.




Don't worry,Roch. It's always at the back of my mind that someone,somewhere is going to put the blockers on anything which concerns the real truth coming out. I'm cautiously optimistic,,but not jumping through hoops yet.

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« Reply #230 on: April 13, 2014, 12:33:PM »
What could the relatives say about Jeremy anyway ? They weren't that personally in touch with the family,,and as far as I can gather,he never did any harm to them,,so whatever does appear in this book will be assumptions------------again. Bitterness and jealousy played a big part at the trial,,along with the appalling he said/she said accusations.

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« Reply #231 on: April 13, 2014, 12:36:PM »
I don't think it's going to be gob-smacking evidence.  I think it's going to be further anomaly evidence that questions the prosecution case, possibly backing up evidence that was previously diismissed because it hadn't been nailed on to the Nth degree prior to the last submissions.

If only it could be proven that the silencer was deliberately tampered with.  Then maybe we could see the removal of sentences like "it is understood that Jeremy Bamber's extended family remain convinced of his guilt" from press articles.

Apparently some people are of the opinion that there exisits some sort of injunction that prevents the kind of reporting that would fully alert the public.  Maybe that's why we get rather bland articles which dont point out the obvious.
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« Reply #232 on: April 13, 2014, 12:42:PM »
I tend to think of what Jeremy had remarked a few weeks ago regarding new evidence. He'd stated that he was " bursting to say something ",,so whether this latest news is in addition to what was already found,,I don't know.

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« Reply #233 on: April 13, 2014, 12:52:PM »
I tend to think of what Jeremy had remarked a few weeks ago regarding new evidence. He'd stated that he was " bursting to say something ",,so whether this latest news is in addition to what was already found,,I don't know.

He may well be bursting to say something.  Maybe he needs to remain bouyant and because of this, any discoveries that undermine the prosecution case or imply wronging by police or prosecution witnesses mean a lot to him.  However these discoveries tend to get challenged or dismissed, rightly or wrongly.

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« Reply #234 on: April 13, 2014, 01:01:PM »
Yes,,it's by no means an easy ride ahead,,and has the ability,sadly,to fall at the first hurdle. However,,whatever evidence has come to light must now be built upon and I'm sure that Simon McKay is well in the running to carry out this pretty hard task.
The main thing being,,that it ends up in the public arena,,as it's surprising how many people who have got a rough idea about the case,,have been pointing fingers at others.

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« Reply #235 on: April 13, 2014, 01:10:PM »
I think if I was JB I would not want to release to the public the full extent of anything he may have found - it will only be pre-judged. He is probably fully aware he has to go through the correct channels.

However in the view of the speech by Theresa May If it is something really new then I hope she will put pressure on EP - by offering them the chance to clear the air once and for all - OR have to appear in a court of law. That is of course if it can be shown the deliberately withheld evidence , or there was collusion with the family.


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« Reply #236 on: April 13, 2014, 01:38:PM »
As I'd said before,,preparations will be under way to stymie any future " would-be appeals ".
Hard as it is,,it would have been far better to have kept any new information from being broadcast. There's a limit when it comes to freedom of speech,,and under these circumstances where there is a positive witchhunt out to get Jeremy,,there are some things that should have remained under wraps.

I know we all like to hear the latest news,etc,,but so do those who hate Jeremy with a passion.
It's going to be another battle of wills.