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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2014, 09:22:PM »
What does she mean by the second sentence: that Jeremy offered to buy her a designer dress and she said No. Or: "did he offer to buy me a disigner dress? - AS IF!"

I can´t tell.



Alias, I take it as meaning that he made the offer of buying her a designer dress but she refused. I suppose it was said to make her look less guilty.

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2014, 09:24:PM »
She mentions the cost of her frock in her witness statement so the diary was most likely cobbled together from that. It also just happens to mention the 'chuckle' alleged to have come from Jeremy when he was first left alone with Julie after the murders. Convenient that Jones also just happened to hear it too. There are LOTS of convenient occurrences where Stan Jones and Julie are concerned!!

They spent a lot of time together, so there!  ;)
So did Jeremy buy her dress - and was it a designer dress? Did she accept that dress from her mass-murderer boyfriend?

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2014, 09:27:PM »


Alias, I take it as meaning that he made the offer of buying her a designer dress but she refused. I suppose it was said to make her look less guilty.

So the prices mentioned are about making her look less guilty. He bought expenisve designer clothes for HIMSELF, but ME, little Julie-pulie only accepted a less expensive dress for MYSELF.

Sounds like he paid though, designer dress or not..... Funny how she had no problem accepting all those gifts from him.
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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2014, 09:30:PM »
They spent a lot of time together, so there!  ;)
So did Jeremy buy her dress - and was it a designer dress? Did she accept that dress from her mass-murderer boyfriend?



I can't see her turning down the offer of a free dress, can you. I think she said it came from Miss Selfridge.

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2014, 09:32:PM »
So one gets " strung up " now for daring to laugh/giggle/chuckle before a funeral. Tsk.

This was written for the attention of others and not as a personal reference.Anyone with half an eye can see that.

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2014, 09:37:PM »
They spent a lot of time together, so there!  ;)
So did Jeremy buy her dress - and was it a designer dress? Did she accept that dress from her mass-murderer boyfriend?

Yes, he bought the dress - from Top Shop (I think) - although it does look like a designer dress. To be fair, she accepted the 'lavish' meals, holidays and the £400.00 birthday money (to go on holiday) so quite why she is trying to make it sound as though butter wouldn't melt, it kind of beyond me.
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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2014, 09:39:PM »
So one gets " strung up " now for daring to laugh/giggle/chuckle before a funeral. Tsk.

This was written for the attention of others and not as a personal reference.Anyone with half an eye can see that.

Hi Lookout, sorry, no, the chuckle was supposed to have occurred when Julie arrived at the cottage on the day of the murders.
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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2014, 09:45:PM »
Hi Lookout, sorry, no, the chuckle was supposed to have occurred when Julie arrived at the cottage on the day of the murders.



And as Julie was the only person present at the time????????????????? I leave it to you to decide whether it was a choked sob or a chuckle.

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2014, 10:12:PM »
Ooops,sorry girlies. Wrong time. I was thinking when it was JM and JB upstairs at Goldhanger, when someone heard laughter.

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2014, 10:20:PM »
 Mind wandering somewhat as I was watching an interesting murder film. ;D ;D

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2014, 10:25:PM »
Ooops,sorry girlies. Wrong time. I was thinking when it was JM and JB upstairs at Goldhanger, when someone heard laughter.



Lookout, I think we must be getting out wires crossed here. Caroline (I think) and I were speaking about the time Julie turned up at the cottage in Goldhanger after the murders. It sounded as if you were speaking of a later time, prior to the funerals.

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2014, 10:25:PM »
Mind wandering somewhat as I was watching an interesting murder film. ;D ;D

Of course you were!  ;D ;D

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2014, 10:30:PM »
Of course you were!  ;D ;D




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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2014, 02:37:AM »



It was good Alias-----FBI--True Crimes.

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Re: Julie Mugford's Diary (Archive Version)
« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2014, 08:51:AM »
this is the first time I have seen this  and it all looks rather flat although it was writen as a continuous scrip. the style has no variation the same emphasis throughout "Jeremy told me he was a murderer", "indian Jeremy paid", its all the same. the script looks the same as well if you were to write that your lover had confessed to murder the words would not flow easily onto the page I would expect to see a hesitant or interupted form of writing.
Questions
why would you write down things that implicate you in a criminal cover up?
what does the rest of the diary look like for comparison?
did Julie take her diary with her at all times?
Did she enter every day?
I would expect a new diary to be started off with eagarness so why was Jan 2nd left blank to be filled in later?
was the same pen used throughout?
when did this diary come to light?
has it been examined by experts both physically lingulistically and handwriting?

no doubt I will think of more questions as the days go on but can I satisfy myself wiyh answers?

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