Jeremys second phone call to Julie:

[maggie]

Maggie, there is nothing suspicious about them taking him to a phone box.  They'd have had to drive past it so it made more sense to use it that to drive on further to Jeremy's cottage in Goldhanger.

I am just answering Adams demands about source Susie.

[Jan]

Everyone could be alive. So why not stay at WHF and assist the police in talking Sheila down. Neville had taken the trouble to ring Jeremy & ask him to 'come quickly'.

Leaving to find a phone box & phone Julie is another mysterious call.

The police were presumably in your scenario in complete control of the situation - so did they ask him to do that? did he refuse ?

If you don't know then you are making assumptions.

[Alias]

The police were presumably in your scenario in complete control of the situation - so did they ask him to do that? did he refuse ?

If you don't know then you are making assumptions.

Wasn´t it strange advice from the police to tell Jeremy to go to the farm and meet them there? They were basically putting a citizen in harms way - potentially. I cannot blame Jeremy for not hurrying there, he must have been scared.

[Caroline]

Everyone could be alive. So why not stay at WHF and assist the police in talking Sheila down. Neville had taken the trouble to ring Jeremy & ask him to 'come quickly'.

Leaving to find a phone box & phone Julie is another mysterious call.

Yeah because the police are renowned for involving unqualified members of the public in armed siege situations - the more the merrier!! 

[Adam]

Yeah because the police are renowned for involving unqualified members of the public in armed siege situations - the more the merrier!! 

Neville had rang Jeremy. Jeremy rang the police. So he is clearly the most important person at WHF.

But he disappears ?

[Adam]

Wasn´t it strange advice from the police to tell Jeremy to go to the farm and meet them there? They were basically putting a citizen in harms way - potentially. I cannot blame Jeremy for not hurrying there, he must have been scared.

Jeremy asked them to pick him up. Making his alibi stronger.

[maggie]

Jeremy asked them to pick him up. Making his alibi stronger.

Why would the police picking him up make his alibi stronger? His neighbours saw his car parked outside all night til they heard him drive over to WHF. Doesn't make any sense.

[Caroline]

Why would the police picking him up make his alibi stronger? His neighbours saw his car parked outside all night til they heard him drive over to WHF. Doesn't make any sense.

It wouldn't, there has never been any question about where he was at the time of the phone call to the police. I have no idea where he thinks he's going with this?

[maggie]

It wouldn't, there has never been any question about where he was at the time of the phone call to the police. I have no idea where he thinks he's going with this?

It's the whole thing again about him driving slowly or slowing down while police car overtook him. Doesn't mean anything imo.

[Adam]

Jeremy could claim he was too stressed to drive to WHF. The shock of Nevilles call too much for him after being woken up at his cottage. Where the police would have picked him up. If he was already at WHF when the police arrive, that does not look so good.

As it happened, after driving to WHF, he drove back to his cottage after the massacre was confirmed. Annoncing he was starving upon arrival.

[Jane]

Jeremy asked them to pick him up. Making his alibi stronger.

Not an unreasonable request when they were only yards from his house when they were en route to the farm.

[lookout]

The police slipped up yet again there. They should have gone to Goldhanger to pick Jeremy up,,even if it was only to feel the engine of Jeremys' car to see if it had been recently used/driven,,to discount the fact that it had been used.Whether Jeremy was a suspect or not. At least they could have crossed that off their lists !

[Jane]

The police slipped up yet again there. They should have gone to Goldhanger to pick Jeremy up,,even if it was only to feel the engine of Jeremys' car to see if it had been recently used/driven,,to discount the fact that it had been used.Whether Jeremy was a suspect or not. At least they could have crossed that off their lists !

Lookout, they would have been within YARDS of his door.

[lookout]

It would have been an important factor,April,,but instead,they carried on in their own tin-pot ways and made things up as they went along,missing out the " little  "things that would have mattered.
It was no earthly use examining the car well after the event.

[Adam]

It is almost certain that Jeremy called Julie at 3.00am, before phoning the police & Nevilles call. Even Jeremy himself intially said he phoned Julie first.

Jeremys supporters dispute this although it may actually help his case if he was already awake when Neville called. Although it shows Jeremy was lying when claiming Nevilles call woke him.

Before or after. It was a very strange call Jeremy made.

There are lots of reasons below why Jeremy would not phone Julie after the police -

Neville had asked Jeremy to 'Come quickly'.

It was 3.00am. The phone may not be answered at all.

It was 3.00am. The phone may not be answered for a long time. Neville had asked Jeremy to 'come quickly'.

Jeremy had already spent a long time looking for the number of Chelmsford police station. Neville had asked Jeremy to 'come quickly'.

Julie would be half asleep & irritated at being woken up. Her answer is likely to be flippent.

Julie did not know the family as well as Jeremy. So may give poor advice.

Julie had not received Nevilles call so again would not be able to give a reasoned answer.

Jeremy did not need Julies advice. He had already made his decision. Ringing up Chelmsford police station & agreeing to meet them at WHF.

Jeremy did not need Julies support. He was a confident man of 24.

Julie was in London. She could not ring back on her phone so was no use during the rest of the night. It would just create worry for Julie.

Jeremy had no idea what had happened at WHF. Why ring someone just to say you do not know what is happening ?


Do other people think phoning Julie after the police would be unrealistic ?