Jeremys second phone call to Julie:

[maggie]

You do not understand my point.
Jeremy rang Julie at 5.40am. Telling her a police car was picking her up.
However the raid team had not even arrived. No one knew what had happened in WHF. Everyone could be asleep & alive. But Jeremy seemed sure that was not the case & was not interested in staying outside WHF to see if there were any developments. How did he know ?
After his 3.00am phone call, Jeremy phoned again less than three hours later. Wanting Julie to come over as quickly as possible. Itching to do a bit of boasting ?

Adam, the police suggested Jeremy rang a close friend or relative, they took him to the phone box and supplied the car to collect Julie so Jeremy would have emotional support at such a traumatic time. It is normal procedure in such a situation. Your post is callous, misleading and untrue.

[Jane]

Jeremy did not dump Julie. He said himself the relationship had been coming to a close over several months. Julie would have been pleased to escape after Jeremys confession regarding the massacre & his asking another woman out in front on her. Amyway a scorned woman is more likely to tell the truth.

The NOTW offer would not have been until 1986. Julie would not have been expecting an offer when she first started speaking with the police.

HE may have seen it that way because that's how it had been for him but it doesn't mean that Julie felt the same. You say Julie "would have been pleased to escape" but she had a choice. She never DIDN'T have a choice and I suspect she clung on because "If I can't have you, nobody will." THAT would stimulate not truth but REVENGE.

[Adam]

Adam, the police suggested Jeremy rang a close friend or relative, the took him to the phone box and supplied the car so Jeremy would have emotional support. It is normal procedure in such a situation. Your post is misleading and is totally untruth.

Source please.

Thought the police would want Jeremy  to stay at WHF. Sheila may engage & Jeremy could help talk her down. After all Neville had rang Jeremy at 3.20am.

[Adam]

HE may have seen it that way because that's how it had been for him but it doesn't mean that Julie felt the same. You say Julie "would have been pleased to escape" but she had a choice. She never DIDN'T have a choice and I suspect she clung on because "If I can't have you, nobody will." THAT would stimulate not truth but REVENGE.

Oh yes. That quote, which Julie put in her WS.

Bit silly of Julie & Stan Jones to put it in her WS if they were trying to frame Jeremy.

[maggie]

Source please.

Thought the police would want Jeremy  to stay at WHF. Sheila may engage & Jeremy could help talk her down. After all Neville had rang Jeremy at 3.20am.

I am on my phone at the moment so cannot supply source. I think it is in a wit stat of  someone from EP. I shall find it but not today. Please bear with me as I am not too well at the moment.
Wouldn't hurt you to read wit stats, you might learn a few things.

[lookout]

I can back Maggie up with the fact that Jeremy was advised/led by the police to phone Julie. That was when he told her that a police car would pick her up from the station on her journey into Essex.
Remember that Jeremy had no family left,to speak of. Obviously,if there'd been a closeness with the relatives,he'd have been in touch with them as they were nearer than Julie,,but because there wasn't,he didn't have a choice,and his pal Brett was in Greece at that time.
If I had relatives like that,I'd only speak to them through a medium !

Look for the sources yourself.We all had to do,for reference.

[Adam]

I can back Maggie up with the fact that Jeremy was advised/led by the police to phone Julie. That was when he told her that a police car would pick her up from the station on her journey into Essex.
Remember that Jeremy had no family left,to speak of. Obviously,if there'd been a closeness with the relatives,he'd have been in touch with them as they were nearer than Julie,,but because there wasn't,he didn't have a choice,and his pal Brett was in Greece at that time.
If I had relatives like that,I'd only speak to them through a medium !

Look for the sources yourself.We all had to do,for reference.

Source please. Surprise me.

I supplied several sources yesterday. Don't see why you should tell me to look for sources if you can supply them on a discussion forum.

[lookout]

It wouldn't make a scrap of difference if I was to put up the Encyclopaedia Britannica,,you'd still ask for the bloody source,,or argue that it was wrong.

[Adam]

It wouldn't make a scrap of difference if I was to put up the Encyclopaedia Britannica,,you'd still ask for the bloody source,,or argue that it was wrong.

Oh dear. You have not got a source. Again.

[grahameb]

Source please.

Thought the police would want Jeremy  to stay at WHF. Sheila may engage & Jeremy could help talk her down. After all Neville had rang Jeremy at 3.20am.

What, hast thou been so long on these forums and ye know not these things?

[lookout]

Oh dear. You have not got a source. Again.

Sources for whatever you want/need are ALL on this forum. Archives for instance.Use your flaming eyes ! Your trouble is that you're not interested in anything unless it's slagging Jeremy off,so therefore,you won't even bother looking.
You've been reading all the wrong things that have no supportive documentation.

[grahameb]

Sources for whatever you want/need are ALL on this forum. Archives for instance.Use your flaming eyes ! Your trouble is that you're not interested in anything unless it's slagging Jeremy off,so therefore,you won't even bother looking.
You've been reading all the wrong things that have no supportive documentation.

Adam's idea of a source is linking to whole manuscripts so you have to read pages and pages of the stuff before you actually reach the relevant bit.

[Adam]

Sources for whatever you want/need are ALL on this forum. Archives for instance.Use your flaming eyes ! Your trouble is that you're not interested in anything unless it's slagging Jeremy off,so therefore,you won't even bother looking.
You've been reading all the wrong things that have no supportive documentation.

Oh dear. Once again you have not got a source.

You know a lot about what the jury were told or not told in court. I asked you a basic question recently about the trial. You did not answer. Would you like me to ask it again ? I already know the answer.

[grahameb]

Oh dear. Once again you have not got a source.

You know a lot about what the jury were told or not told in court. I asked you a basic question recently about the trial. You did not answer. Would you like me to ask it again ? I already know the answer.

I've got some tomato sauce.

[Jane]

Oh yes. That quote, which Julie put in her WS.

Bit silly of Julie & Stan Jones to put it in her WS if they were trying to frame Jeremy.

My point was, she wasn't compelled to stay with him. She CHOSE to.