who is completely certain.

[nugnug]

are so you find adam guilty.

[grahameb]

are so you find adam guilty.

And from his own mouth.

[nugnug]

i thought there might just be reasonble doubt but as you find him guilty ill go along with that.

[grahameb]

i thought there might just be reasonble doubt but as you find him guilty ill go along with that.

The trouble is he is unreasonable as he claims now that he has never denied the proven facts.  That police asked Jeremy's permission to destroy bloodied carpets.

[lookout]

are so you find adam guilty.

Adam is guilty of plagiarism !

[Jane]

The trouble is he is unreasonable as he claims now that he has never denied the proven facts.  That police asked Jeremy's permission to destroy bloodied carpets.

Didn't Adam tell us that Jeremy ORDERED the police to burn them?

[grahameb]

Didn't Adam tell us that Jeremy ORDERED the police to burn them?

Something like that and they "obeyed". lol

[Caroline]

Didn't Adam tell us that Jeremy ORDERED the police to burn them?

They requested to burn the carpets etc. Making things up really doesn't help either side - he MUST know that?

[Adam]

They requested to burn the carpets etc. Making things up really doesn't help either side - he MUST know that?

I never make things up & gave a source about the carpets. A source which you requested.

Please do not lie and say I make things up.

[Caroline]

I never make things up & gave a source about the carpets. A source which you requested.

Please do not lie and say I make things up.

Then post facts!! The police 'requested' that Jeremy sign for the articles to be burned he did NOT demand they did so!!

[Adam]

Then post facts!! The police 'requested' that Jeremy sign for the articles to be burned he did NOT demand they did so!!

Yes alright. It was a fact on another source. In an article people praised.

Someone else posted a document I was not aware of,  which outweighed my source. Stating Jeremy agreed for the carpets to be burned.

That is why I am on here, to find out new information. And ask important questions such as 'does Jeremys 3.00am phone call highlight his guilt'.

[Reader]

Adam, please answer this question: why would Jeremy have highlighted his guilt by telephoning Julie as early as 3am (and not having a good explanation for the next 25 minutes)?

[Jane]

Yes alright. It was a fact on another source. In an article people praised.

Someone else posted a document I was not aware of,  which outweighed my source. Stating Jeremy agreed for the carpets to be burned.

That is why I am on here, to find out new information. And ask important questions such as 'does Jeremys 3.00am phone call highlight his guilt'.

So are you telling us that you're prepared to post ANY drivel, from ANY source, allow us to believe that you're posting your own thoughts, but refuse to take responsibility for them. If you don't wish to be labelled LIAR, why don't you, instead of whinging like a spoiled child when it happens, make it clear that you're quoting. WE can't be expected to know.

[Jan]

I would say Adam is best at ignoring information that does not fit his scenario. For example the visit to the bank by Julie and her friend , who in their statements they went alone. But when shown the statement by the bank manager who says they were accompanied by the police, he just Iignores it. And I think that is important as the immunity for  crimes committed in return for giving evidence is relevant.

[Adam]

So are you telling us that you're prepared to post ANY drivel, from ANY source, allow us to believe that you're posting your own thoughts, but refuse to take responsibility for them. If you don't wish to be labelled LIAR, why don't you, instead of whinging like a spoiled child when it happens, make it clear that you're quoting. WE can't be expected to know.

I am always backing up my posts with sources. You never do.

Why do I need to lie ? There is more than enough common knowledge which highlights Jeremys guilt.