What REALLY Convinces You That Jeremy Is Innocent/Guilty?

[Caroline]

I've had wonderful cleaning ladies with OCD. 

Well, he did have the Marigolds on, seems a shame to waste them!! 

[Jane]

OOOOOH, NOW we know who put the childrens' and Sheila's clothes into soak. WASN'T he well house trained.

[lookout]

He would not have carried her around the house. He would have carried her a few yards.

After 17 hours harvesting,,I bet it took Jeremy all his time carrying his supper to the table. I'm afraid I don't have Jeremy down as a multi-tasker at all. I think at one time,he was too idle to scratch himself,,let alone find the energy to slaughter a whole family.

[scipio_usmc]

Sheila was mentally ill. Sometimes she saw the people closest to her as the Devil or the Devil´s childrem. What part of mentally ill don´t you get? Why is this so easily dismissed by nons?

It is not logical that Jeremy would have taken Sheila into the main bedroom, it was filled with blood, and June lay dead on the floor smeared in blood. If I step into your crazy scenario for a minute, he would more likely have carried her to the corridor.

It is logical, the goal was to suggest she shot June and then killed herself. 

The delusions you speak of were when she was not medicated and/or on narcotics at the time of said delusions.  She was medicated and not under the influence of narcotcs so there is nothing to fear especially since she would be dead in a minute.

[scipio_usmc]

OOOOOH, NOW we know who put the childrens' and Sheila's clothes into soak. WASN'T he well house trained.

SInce there were 2 pairs of panties soaking she obviously ruined two the same day, you would expect someone to learn after the first pair.  I am glad I am a man and don't have to worry about that just putting up with women on PMS.

[scipio_usmc]

What difference would that make?

A great deal.  It is unlikely for someone on tranquilizers to wake up, be distrubed by absolutely nothing because everyone else is asleep and then to go bezerk.

 

[grahameb]

I have established something important today.

That Jeremy could have carried an asleep Sheila into the main bedroom. Fact.

And I COULD drink a double whiskey in one go. FACT.

[Alias]

It is logical, the goal was to suggest she shot June and then killed herself. 

The delusions you speak of were when she was not medicated and/or on narcotics at the time of said delusions.  She was medicated and not under the influence of narcotcs so there is nothing to fear especially since she would be dead in a minute.

It is not logical at all. It is very illogical that Jeremy would choose to "drag" Sheila into the bloodfilled room with her heavily bloodstained, dead mother. It would upset her immensely - a very stupid move of Jeremy in fact. All that for some flimsy, unclear "staging".
I find this to be a problem for the nons, which has never been addressed properly. Not to my satisfaction anyway.

You are dismissing that Sheila was gravely mentally ill. She attacked the Meter Man who got very scared of her. She was not in a stable, calm state during this period as you try to make it seem.

You have to twist and bend a little here and a little there to make things fit. That is a fact.

P.S. I don´t mention her running screaming from the monastary the previous day. I am not sure where that rumour comes from. Perhaps it is more than a rumour, I just don´t know where it stems from. Anybody?

[susan]

Grahame did you know that when Adam was 7 he was moved from one house to another without waking up and did not know he had been moved till he woke up and thought "where I am"

[grahameb]

Jeremys supporters often go on about Sheilas bed apparently not being made. It shows Jeremy is innocent.

However it is quite possible Jeremy made the bed afterwards. To suggest Sheila had been up all night & was too crazy to sleep.

Or Sheila may have slept on top of the bed, it was  August. Making it easier for Jeremy to carry her a few yards.

Can't you get past your paranoia about Jeremy making things look as they should be and just accept the fact that they may just have been as they should have been without Jeremy making it so?

[grahameb]

Well, he did have the Marigolds on, seems a shame to waste them!! 

It's a wonder he didn't move all the bullet casings if he was going to create a suicide scene.

[Alias]

Grahame did you know that when Adam was 7 he was moved from one house to another without waking up and did not know he had been moved till he woke up and thought "where I am"

HAHAHAHA, susan!!!

[grahameb]

A great deal.  It is unlikely for someone on tranquilizers to wake up, be distrubed by absolutely nothing because everyone else is asleep and then to go bezerk.

 

You clearly haven't a clue about what you are talking about. I've tried to educate you but it appears that your fingers are in your ears and your palms are covering your eyes?

[Jane]

SInce there were 2 pairs of panties soaking she obviously ruined two the same day, you would expect someone to learn after the first pair.  I am glad I am a man and don't have to worry about that just putting up with women on PMS.

I'll refrain from mentioning sexist, but I will concur that once is an accident, twice is being careless.............HOWEVER.................it MAY reflect what was happening in Sheila's life. We know that she'd previously been fastidious. That she liked to look pretty because she liked to be admired. We know that, even if she wasn't a successful model, she'd learned the routine, but something had happened to change all that. I believe that Sheila felt hopeless.

[grahameb]

It is not logical at all. It is very illogical that Jeremy would choose to "drag" Sheila into the bloodfilled room with her heavily bloodstained, dead mother. It would upset her immensely - a very stupid move of Jeremy in fact. All that for some flimsy, unclear "staging".
I find this to be a problem for the nons, which has never been addressed properly. Not to my satisfaction anyway.

You are dismissing that Sheila was gravely mentally ill. She attacked the Meter Man who got very scared of her. She was not in a stable, calm state during this period as you try to make it seem.

You have to twist and bend a little here and a little there to make things fit. That is a fact.

P.S. I don´t mention her running screaming from the monastary the previous day. I am not sure where that rumour comes from. Perhaps it is more than a rumour, I just don´t know where it stems from. Anybody?

He must have tiptoed through all the blood since he left no footprints and absolutely no forensic evidence was found on him, in WHF or even at his own house. For a foolish man he must have been very smart?