Did Jeremy hate June ?

[lookout]

Actually when you look at the bigger picture she was definitely more emotional about his "womanising" than the murders or identifying the bodies . Quite odd really.

I would have said vicious,Jansus. Good job he didn't marry her,he'd have had a dogs life.

[Jane]

Actually when you look at the bigger picture she was definitely more emotional about his "womanising" than the murders or identifying the bodies . Quite odd really.

Not when we consider that the murders didn't touch HER personally, but Jeremy's "womanizing" threatened HER future.

[Adam]

Well you told me to go there. But I still can't find anything on there where Jeremy does say hateful things against Julie Mugford. So please back up your accusations against him. Or is this another lie? As far as I can see it is just mud slinging from you?

He writes a lot about Julie. Several pages worth. None of it complimentary.

Can you not accuse me of lying. Everything you have asked me to provide something, I have. Such as today.

I asked you to provide proof today. You said you read it in the paper.

[Adam]

Alias don't forget she threw a bar of soap at his head which she removed from the trolley in the supermarket  quite a hot tempered little madam was our Julie never put a pillow over anyone's head but the thought is becoming quite appealing.

Where did you read about the soap. It is not online or in Wilkes's book.

[lookout]

Jeremy was looking for the more mature woman who wouldn't throw a wobbly at the drop of a hat.

[Alias]

Actually when you look at the bigger picture she was definitely more emotional about his "womanising" than the murders or identifying the bodies . Quite odd really.

Yes, very odd.

LOL susie about the smothering...

[Adam]

Just as damning was the testimony of his former girlfriend Julie Mugford, who told the police that he had talked of his hatred for his family and his plans to kill them. ‘It’s tonight or never,’ he reportedly said on the day of the murders. Pro-Bamber campaigners have always tried to dismiss Mugford’s evidence, arguing that she was a tainted witness because not only had he apparently jilted her soon after the murders but also she sold her story to the press after the trial. But it is highly unlikely that she would have dared to perjure herself on such trivial grounds, particularly not in such a serious trial. Nor has she ever retracted a word of her testimony.

From the Spectator. It is amazing that people think Julie has lied so seriously for the last 29 years.

[grahameb]

He writes a lot about Julie. Several pages worth. None of it complimentary.

Can you not accuse me of lying. Everything you have asked me to provide, I have. Such as today.

I asked you to provide proof today. You said you read it in the paper.

Prove it! You have provided NOTHING. Prove to me that you are not lying.

[grahameb]

She did not try to smother him. She said herself she put a pillow over his head. Then took it off.

Criminal record. Oh yes I forgot.

It appears you have the memory of a goldfish?

[Adam]

Eh ?

You asked for proof that Jeremy has spoken about Julie since conviction. I gave you a long chapter on his site.

You just tell me you read something in a newspaper 12 years ago.

[grahameb]

Can you discuss the case rather than call me naive please.

Julie said to the police. Let me start from the beginning. And told them about the caravan robbery, which they had no idea about.

What was said before between the police & Julie is just gossip.

Oh it's all gossip if it pertains to Julie Mugford. But it's all gospel truth when it applies to Jeremy.

[Adam]

Graheme. You are a liar. Julie has not said anything abou Jeremy since the NOTW article.

Prove she has.

[Adam]

Just as damning was the testimony of his former girlfriend Julie Mugford, who told the police that he had talked of his hatred for his family and his plans to kill them. ‘It’s tonight or never,’ he reportedly said on the day of the murders. Pro-Bamber campaigners have always tried to dismiss Mugford’s evidence, arguing that she was a tainted witness because not only had he apparently jilted her soon after the murders but also she sold her story to the press after the trial. But it is highly unlikely that she would have dared to perjure herself on such trivial grounds, particularly not in such a serious trial. Nor has she ever retracted a word of her testimony.

From the Spectator. It is amazing that people think Julie has lied so seriously for the last 29 years.

[grahameb]

She did not try to smother him. She said herself she put a pillow over his head. Then took it off.

Criminal record. Oh yes I forgot.

Muttering the words, "If I cannot have you nobody will". Oh I see she didn't try to smother him. But she put a pillow over his head. 

[Adam]

Graheme & the other 20 odd fierce Jeremy supporters on here. Julie did not perjure herself.

Accept it.