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Offline lookout

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Re: foster care.
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2015, 07:50:PM »
Lookout, I believe her words were that she was AFRAID she could and I don't think that was withheld. I don't recall that being part of your 12.10 post.






However way I put/said it earlier,I wasn't referring to what Mat was accusing me of.

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Re: foster care.
« Reply #61 on: September 22, 2015, 11:16:PM »
Identities of Social Workers and Foster Parents / carers withheld to protect the innocent:-

Witness 'A' - a 4 page witness statement
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« Reply #62 on: September 22, 2015, 11:25:PM »
Identities of Social Workers and Foster Parents / carers withheld to protect the innocent:-

Witness 'B' - a 3 page witness statement
« Last Edit: September 22, 2015, 11:52:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: foster care.
« Reply #63 on: September 22, 2015, 11:27:PM »
Identities of Social Workers and Foster Parents / carers withheld to protect the innocent:-

Witness 'C' - a 1 page witness statement
« Last Edit: September 22, 2015, 11:53:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: foster care.
« Reply #64 on: September 22, 2015, 11:32:PM »
Identities of Social Workers and Foster Parents / carers withheld to protect the innocent:-

Witness 'D' - a 2 page witness statement
« Last Edit: September 22, 2015, 11:54:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: foster care.
« Reply #65 on: September 22, 2015, 11:41:PM »
Identities of Social Workers and Foster Parents / carers withheld to protect the innocent:-

Witness 'E' - a 4 page witness statement
« Last Edit: September 22, 2015, 11:55:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: foster care.
« Reply #66 on: September 22, 2015, 11:42:PM »
Identities of Social Workers and Foster Parents / carers withheld to protect the innocent:-

Witness 'F' - a 2 page witness statement
« Last Edit: September 22, 2015, 11:56:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: foster care.
« Reply #67 on: September 22, 2015, 11:43:PM »
Identities of Social Workers and Foster Parents / carers withheld to protect the innocent:-

Witness 'G' - a 2 page witness statement
« Last Edit: September 22, 2015, 11:57:PM by mike tesko »
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Re: foster care.
« Reply #68 on: September 22, 2015, 11:44:PM »
Identities of Social Workers and Foster Parents / carers withheld to protect the innocent:-

Witness 'H' - a 1 page witness statement
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Re: foster care.
« Reply #69 on: September 22, 2015, 11:46:PM »
Identities of Social Workers and Foster Parents / carers withheld to protect the innocent:-

Witness 'I' - a 2 page witness statement
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« Reply #70 on: September 22, 2015, 11:50:PM »
Relatives have gone public and state that Ralph and June Bamber, would never have entertained involving Social Workers, or Foster Carers / Parents in the lives of Sheila Caffell and her two young children - well, take it from me, Essex police gathered several witness statements from at least 8 such professionals or witnesses who had been involved all along. It just goes to show how the relatives, and guilty supporters were so wrong about this matter...
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« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2015, 12:12:AM »
Involvement with Sheila and her children by Social services, Social workers, Foster Carers and Foster Parents had been going on for years with the knowlege of Ralph and June Bamber, but yet none of the relatives knew anything about it, instead they accused Jeremy of making up a story about his parents and Sheila talking about getting Sheila help to look after the children, which was being talked about on the evening prior to the shootings. It now turns out to be true, and that Social services, Social workers, Foster Carers and Foster Parents had already been directly involved all along, already...
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Re: foster care.
« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2015, 09:04:AM »
Involvement with Sheila and her children by Social services, Social workers, Foster Carers and Foster Parents had been going on for years with the knowlege of Ralph and June Bamber, but yet none of the relatives knew anything about it, instead they accused Jeremy of making up a story about his parents and Sheila talking about getting Sheila help to look after the children, which was being talked about on the evening prior to the shootings. It now turns out to be true, and that Social services, Social workers, Foster Carers and Foster Parents had already been directly involved all along, already...

You speak as if Colin doesn't exist. Colin was the boys' main carer. We hear that Sheila wanted them "back" but it didn't happen. I think the only reason SS were involved was because Sheila was inclined to neglect the boys when she was ill. Despite your insinuations there is NO evidence of her abusing them.

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Re: foster care.
« Reply #73 on: September 23, 2015, 09:39:AM »
You speak as if Colin doesn't exist. Colin was the boys' main carer. We hear that Sheila wanted them "back" but it didn't happen. I think the only reason SS were involved was because Sheila was inclined to neglect the boys when she was ill. Despite your insinuations there is NO evidence of her abusing them.






One of them had scalds to his leg/s and a facial burn. How would you account for such injuries ? Or rather,how would you have thought a Social Worker would have accounted for the injuries ? Today,if a young child was shown to have scalds and a burn to its face,the Social Services would have whipped them up and taken them to the nearest hospital for examination---------no questions asked.
Children have bumps and bruises but scalds and a burn to the face are a different matter.

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Re: foster care.
« Reply #74 on: September 23, 2015, 09:48:AM »
You speak as if Colin doesn't exist. Colin was the boys' main carer. We hear that Sheila wanted them "back" but it didn't happen. I think the only reason SS were involved was because Sheila was inclined to neglect the boys when she was ill. Despite your insinuations there is NO evidence of her abusing them.
Do we know when Social Services signed Sheila and boys off? Was it when Colin was doing most of the caring? The boys must have been considered 'at risk' for some reason, possibly neglect because of Sheila's illness and inability to cope on a day to day basis.
We don't know but should imagine June and Neville were horrified about this situation.
Sheila clearly wasn't coping on any level and struggled to look after herself never mind the boys when her illness overcame her, hence the weekly visits and delivery of food and other necessities, probably paid her utility bills as well. The visits probably also enabled June to check how she was generally coping as well, P.S. can cause chaos in the day to day coping of a sufferer.
It was before the days of mobile phones and instant communication, no doubt they paid her bills as well.
Think June and Neville would have been struggling out of their depth trying to keep her afloat and they deserve more understanding.