foster care.

[lookout]

Lookout, NOBODY reading your original post on this subject would have thought you were suggesting ANY accidental injury. You simply spoke of "cigarette burn(s)" and no one is unaware of what they imply. I feel perfectly certain that SS MAY have alerted the hospital to the fact that they were "supporting" the mother, the result of which MAY have been that the hospital was extra vigilant. They found NOTHING, Lookout.

Which goes to show how your minds work !!

[Caroline]

Lookout, NOBODY reading your original post on this subject would have thought you were suggesting ANY accidental injury. You simply spoke of "cigarette burn(s)" and no one is unaware of what they imply. I feel perfectly certain that SS MAY have alerted the hospital to the fact that they were "supporting" the mother, the result of which MAY have been that the hospital was extra vigilant. They found NOTHING, Lookout.

Or this one, unless we're to believe that the child kept running at the cigarette? 

The burns were found on legs,face and tummy of one of the boys-------Patti's post of May 2nd 2012.

[Jane]

Which goes to show how your minds work !!

I don't recall you making a point of saying the alleged burns were accidental, although you did stop short of admitting your determination to stick child harm on Sheila by saying you were determined to find the posts which mentioned it.

[lookout]

I don't recall you making a point of saying the alleged burns were accidental, although you did stop short of admitting your determination to stick child harm on Sheila by saying you were determined to find the posts which mentioned it.

I didn't say they were deliberate either.

[Caroline]

I didn't say they were deliberate either.

Implied

[lookout]

Implied

Misinterpretation------------again. Exactly what EP did to Jeremy.They put words into his mouth,as they do.

[Jane]

I didn't say they were deliberate either.

By posting what you did you made it perfectly clear you weren't defending her.

[Caroline]

Misinterpretation------------again. Exactly what EP did to Jeremy.They put words into his mouth,as they do.

Hardly!

[Jane]

Misinterpretation------------again. Exactly what EP did to Jeremy.They put words into his mouth,as they do.

It was down to you to dot enough I's and cross enough T's to ensure what you said WASN'T misinterpreted. If Jeremy is blaming his imprisonment on his words being misinterpreted it's pretty pathetic because he, like you, was capable of ensuring otherwise.

[lookout]

It was down to you to dot enough I's and cross enough T's to ensure what you said WASN'T misinterpreted. If Jeremy is blaming his imprisonment on his words being misinterpreted it's pretty pathetic because he, like you, was capable of ensuring otherwise.

Oh come on. How could I have explained myself any other way than what and how I've done on the forum over lots of things--------------but still been disbelieved. So how do you think Jeremy felt being bombarded with all sorts of " out of sequence " questions,some repeated which he'd already answered ?
It's the most difficult thing in the world to convince anyone of your honesty when you stand alone !!

[Jane]

Oh come on. How could I have explained myself any other way than what and how I've done on the forum over lots of things--------------but still been disbelieved. So how do you think Jeremy felt being bombarded with all sorts of " out of sequence " questions,some repeated which he'd already answered ?
It's the most difficult thing in the world to convince anyone of your honesty when you stand alone !!

Lookout, you first mentioned Sheila harming her children at 12.10 today. It was courtesy of the suggestion that Dr Ferguson didn't mention it in court. Since then Caroline and I have made attempts to say that there is NO proof that Sheila harmed them. Until about half an hour ago you hadn't even MENTIONED the word "accidental" as in "she may have accidentally............." You simply left it hanging. It's of no moment how you think our minds work. What you DIDN'T say had the same effect as what Jeremy DID say to police outside of WHF. Leading minds down predesignated paths.

[guest154]

I didn't say they were deliberate either.

You spoke about how convenient it was Ferguson didn't mention it in court, why would you be bothered he hadn't (which we've no proof he didn't) if you hadn't of been saying it was a deliberate act.

[lookout]

You spoke about how convenient it was Ferguson didn't mention it in court, why would you be bothered he hadn't (which we've no proof he didn't) if you hadn't of been saying it was a deliberate act.

Sheila told Ferguson that she could hurt/harm her children. It's this which was hidden from view because of patient confidentiality ! Not the fact that one or the other had burns !

[Steve_uk]

Lookout does have a point about Doctor Ferguson's evidence. It's not clear how far he went to whom and what he was concealing until he retired from lucrative private practice.

[Jane]

Sheila told Ferguson that she could hurt/harm her children. It's this which was hidden from view because of patient confidentiality ! Not the fact that one or the other had burns !

Lookout, I believe her words were that she was AFRAID she could and I don't think that was withheld. I don't recall that being part of your 12.10 post.