72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991

[Adam]

An even more pertinent question would be, If the relationship was in decline for 6 months why would Jeremy tell her all about the alleged murders.

Good point.

The judge also made a good point. Jeremy trusted Julie enough to carry out the caravan break in with him. So may have trusted him enough to confide.

He may have wanted to boast to someone. Julie being that person, espescially after she dismissed his 10am 'it's now or never' claim.

Julie would have suspected anyway, after all the discussions about it before.

Jeremy felt safe his plan was perfect. Telling Julie it was an 'open & shut case' & he was 'watertight'.

Julie said herself she was under his spell. Jeremy would have known this.

[maggie]

Good point.
The judge also made a good point. Jeremy trusted Julie enough to carry out the caravan break in with him. So may have trusted him enough to confide.
He may have wanted to boast to someone. Julie being that person, espescially after she dismissed his 10am 'it's now or never' claim.
Julie would have suspected anyway, after all the discussions about it before.
Jeremy felt safe his plan was perfect. Telling Julie it was an 'open & shut case' & he was 'watertight'.
Julie said herself she was under his spell. Jeremy would have known this. anything.

All supposition Adam, none of this proves anything.

[grahameb]

All supposition Adam, none of this proves anything.

Tel you the truth I'm not very impressed with either of their characters.

[lookout]

What is proof of Jeremys' innocence is evident in his requests for those at the time of the tragedy,and who also know Jeremy,,knew the Bamber family,and know the extended family ( relatives of the deceased ) to come forward.Jeremy is NOT afraid of the truth,,and that's good enough for me.

Would anyone,,who wanted their past brought forward,in the way of friends,acquaintances and even the police,,insist that they were telling the truth ? To face them ? Head held high ?

 Would anyone guilty want to be reminded,,or insist after nearly 30 years that they were innocent ? I don't think so,,as they'd have been dead long before 30 years  one way or another !

For a man who never,and doesn't show a tendency to be violent,,I,,as a stranger to Jeremy,,would have found it very difficult to comprehend that he'd murdered 5 people,,and more consideration should have been made on who exactly would benefit from Jeremys' incarceration,as it appears that this was solely what it was about.

[grahameb]

What is proof of Jeremys' innocence is evident in his requests for those at the time of the tragedy,and who also know Jeremy,,knew the Bamber family,and know the extended family ( relatives of the deceased ) to come forward.Jeremy is NOT afraid of the truth,,and that's good enough for me.

Would anyone,,who wanted their past brought forward,in the way of friends,acquaintances and even the police,,insist that they were telling the truth ? To face them ? Head held high ?

 Would anyone guilty want to be reminded,,or insist after nearly 30 years that they were innocent ? I don't think so,,as they'd have been dead long before 30 years  one way or another !

For a man who never,and doesn't show a tendency to be violent,,I,,as a stranger to Jeremy,,would have found it very difficult to comprehend that he'd murdered 5 people,,and more consideration should have been made on who exactly would benefit from Jeremys' incarceration,as it appears that this was solely what it was about.

I agree. After killing 5 people then meeting police he would have been so pumped up with adrenalin that he would be all over the place. I can never believe that a few puffs of cannabis could make any difference. Anyway the police would have noticed if he had been full of puff. They also would have detected it if he had been hyped up. It is a tremendous thing to kill one person, let alone five. It must have been someone completely out of their mind.

[maggie]

I agree. After killing 5 people then meeting police he would have been so pumped up with adrenalin that he would be all over the place. I can never believe that a few puffs of cannabis could make any difference. Anyway the police would have noticed if he had been full of puff. They also would have detected it if he had been hyped up. It is a tremendous thing to kill one person, let alone five. It must have been someone completely out of their mind.

Hi grahame the last drug anyone would take before intending to murder is cannabis, as a relaxant it's more likely to send someone to sleep. 

[Caroline]

Hi April was it also Liz Rimmington who had a relationship with Malcolm  MacDonald? Maybe the fact he was included in the accusation had a revenge motive as well?

No Maggie, her boyfriend was called Malcolm or Martin but it wasn't MacDonald.

[Caroline]

Hi grahame the last drug anyone would take before intending to murder is cannabis, as a relaxant it's more likely to send someone to sleep. 

Or raid the fridge!! 

[Caroline]

Jeremy has to claim he jilted Julie. It is the only justification he can make for why she testified. But as I said earlier, she was not.

He was making arrangements to meet another girl in front of Julie - I'd say that was pretty final!! She was jilted - like it or not!!

[maggie]

Or raid the fridge!! 

[maggie]

No Maggie, her boyfriend was called Malcolm or Martin but it wasn't MacDonald.

I meant the so called hired assasin. The mercenary, forgotten his name.

[Caroline]

I meant the so called hired assasin. The mercenary, forgotten his name.

I know - Liz Rimmington wasn't seeing him. I can't remember the name of her boyfriend - I'll see if I can find it.

[maggie]

I know - Liz Rimmington wasn't seeing him. I can't remember the name of her boyfriend - I'll see if I can find it.

Mathew MacDonald. One of Julie's friends was involved with him at some time.
Well think pretty much EVERYONE was  involved with him at some point.

[Adam]

What is proof of Jeremys' innocence is evident in his requests for those at the time of the tragedy,and who also know Jeremy,,knew the Bamber family,and know the extended family ( relatives of the deceased ) to come forward.Jeremy is NOT afraid of the truth,,and that's good enough for me.

Would anyone,,who wanted their past brought forward,in the way of friends,acquaintances and even the police,,insist that they were telling the truth ? To face them ? Head held high ?

 Would anyone guilty want to be reminded,,or insist after nearly 30 years that they were innocent ? I don't think so,,as they'd have been dead long before 30 years  one way or another !

For a man who never,and doesn't show a tendency to be violent,,I,,as a stranger to Jeremy,,would have found it very difficult to comprehend that he'd murdered 5 people,,and more consideration should have been made on who exactly would benefit from Jeremys' incarceration,as it appears that this was solely what it was about.

There are several reasons why Jeremy protests his innocence. Of which i have already posted.

[Adam]

He was making arrangements to meet another girl in front of Julie - I'd say that was pretty final!! She was jilted - like it or not!!

Julie would have been fuming at Jeremys betrayal after she had kept her mouth shut post massacre.

Do you think that is the reason she told the police about the caravan break in & massacre ?