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Offline Jane

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #360 on: February 25, 2014, 07:45:AM »
Jeremy was very popular with women. Having affairs with older women.A younger Julie could easily fall for him. She did.

Julie was one of those women who was born "old." There seemed to be an innate understanding. An awareness.  A "knowingness." She was the sort of woman who might have caused other women to stand a little closer to their partners when she walked into a room. Julie was 20 going on 40 so fitted very well into Jeremy's "pattern(?)" -I use the word deliberately, because at 24, and Julie being only his SECOND girlfriend of any duration, in my experience, a "pattern" had yet to emerge- perhaps you could give us the names, OTHER than that of Suzette Ford, of all the "older" women he'd had affairs with. Looking back to that period the GENERAL consensus from women was that she was no ones' idea of a "BF" and couldn't be trusted any further that she could be seen. From the men, well, I can best describe it by saying how a friend and his associates referred to her. They called her "YOURS" because none of them would have touched her with "theirs."




 
A very detailed lie then.

And we know that Journalists NEVER lie, don't we? Isn't there a little court case going on right now concerning their ethics? It seems little, in that regard, has changed in nearly 30 years.

 
I have already mentioned Jeremys NOTW deal & attempt to sell pictures of Sheila.


And it's already been disregarded because as neither happened they can't be considered.
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #361 on: February 25, 2014, 10:32:AM »
Sinking ship ?
Yeah. When are you boarding?

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #362 on: February 25, 2014, 09:12:PM »
Julie told Liz Rimmington in private. How is that seeking revenge ?

Julie fed both Liz Rimmington and Susan Battersby JUST enough info to make them believe Jeremy was responsible. She probably didn't think that LR would call the police but simply wanted to drip feed a little poison so there would always be doubt in the minds of people he knew - I'd say that was revenge!! She got a LOT more than she bargained for!!
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #363 on: February 25, 2014, 09:27:PM »
Julie fed both Liz Rimmington and Susan Battersby JUST enough info to make them believe Jeremy was responsible. She probably didn't think that LR would call the police but simply wanted to drip feed a little poison so there would always be doubt in the minds of people he knew - I'd say that was revenge!! She got a LOT more than she bargained for!!
Oh it was almost certainly revenge. The fact that she threw something at him and tried to smother him shows that. It is amazing and beyond reason what some women will do in revenge to a lover who has betrayed them.

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #364 on: February 25, 2014, 09:41:PM »
Oh it was almost certainly revenge. The fact that she threw something at him and tried to smother him shows that. It is amazing and beyond reason what some women will do in revenge to a lover who has betrayed them.


I wonder if any of us can imagine just HOW humiliated she felt at being dumped. This hadn't been a private relationship. Student Julie and her wealthy middle class lover had been out and about together for nearly 2 years. I doubt very much if she's kept from her girlfriends her hopes for, at the very least, a piece of (suitably expensive) jewellery to signify his commitment to her. She'd possibly giggled with girlfriends about the size of the diamond. Maybe even gazed a wedding dresses. To say she was gutted would, I think have been an understatement. It wasn't just about loss of her boyfriend. It was loss of her future. It was loss of face. It was UTTER humiliation. Did she want revenge? Is the Pope Catholic?

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #365 on: February 25, 2014, 09:52:PM »

I wonder if any of us can imagine just HOW humiliated she felt at being dumped. This hadn't been a private relationship. Student Julie and her wealthy middle class lover had been out and about together for nearly 2 years. I doubt very much if she's kept from her girlfriends her hopes for, at the very least, a piece of (suitably expensive) jewellery to signify his commitment to her. She'd possibly giggled with girlfriends about the size of the diamond. Maybe even gazed a wedding dresses. To say she was gutted would, I think have been an understatement. It wasn't just about loss of her boyfriend. It was loss of her future. It was loss of face. It was UTTER humiliation. Did she want revenge? Is the Pope Catholic?

Liz Rimmington may have had her own reasons for wanted to believe Jeremy was responsible - she slept with him behind Julie's back. Maybe she felt used?
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #366 on: February 25, 2014, 10:05:PM »
Liz Rimmington may have had her own reasons for wanted to believe Jeremy was responsible - she slept with him behind Julie's back. Maybe she felt used?



So, out of anger, Julie drip feeds the embryonic story to LR, who out of her own desire to get back at Jeremy "supports" Julie in taking it further?

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #367 on: February 25, 2014, 10:16:PM »


So, out of anger, Julie drip feeds the embryonic story to LR, who out of her own desire to get back at Jeremy "supports" Julie in taking it further?

It's a thought!
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #368 on: February 26, 2014, 05:54:AM »
Jeremy said in his interview transcripts the relationship had been in decline for around 6 months. The judge confirmed this in his summing up when asking why Jeremy would bring a bike to his cottage if the relationship was coming to a close.

Julie did not like Brett much & did not want to a to go to some places with them.  But Jeremy persuaded her. Jeremy also persuaded her to attend the funeral with him.

Jeremy gave himself no brownie points saying to Julie he hired a hit man to massacre his family. Asking another woman out in front of Julie would have done him no favours either. Julie hit him. She also said herself she put a cushion over his head. Then took it off.

Wrestling with what she knew from the 3am phone call & Jeremys confessions afterwards, Julie would have been pleased to escape.
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #369 on: February 26, 2014, 05:57:AM »
So Julie was not jilted.

Even if she was it is extremly unlikely she would do something so serious & calculating. Risking her own reputation & being charged with perjury.
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #370 on: February 26, 2014, 08:04:AM »


So, out of anger, Julie drip feeds the embryonic story to LR, who out of her own desire to get back at Jeremy "supports" Julie in taking it further?
Hi April was it also Liz Rimmington who had a relationship with Malcolm  MacDonald? Maybe the fact he was included in the accusation had a revenge motive as well?

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #371 on: February 26, 2014, 08:06:AM »
not neciseraly.she could have been jelous enough.and she was scorned.

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #372 on: February 26, 2014, 08:12:AM »
Jeremy said in his interview transcripts the relationship had been in decline for around 6 months. The judge confirmed this in his summing up when asking why Jeremy would bring a bike to his cottage if the relationship was coming to a close.
Julie did not like Brett much & did not want to a to go to some places with them.  But Jeremy persuaded her. Jeremy also persuaded her to attend the funeral with him.
Jeremy gave himself no brownie points saying to Julie he hired a hit man to massacre his family. Asking another woman out in front of Julie would have done him no favours either. Julie hit him. She also said herself she put a cushion over his head. Then took it of..
Wrestling with what she knew from the 3am phone call & Jeremys confessions afterwards, Julie would have been pleased to escape.
So Adam, julie hit Jeremy, that is  no better than if Jrremy hit Julie. There is no sign of violence in Jeremy's past, no girlfriends accuse him of violence or abuse as would be expected of anyone convicted of a violent crime. It's Julie who is the hitter oh and the fraudster. Mmmmmm   makes you think.

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #373 on: February 26, 2014, 08:18:AM »
So Julie was not jilted.

Even if she was it is extremly unlikely she would do something so serious & calculating. Risking her own reputation & being charged with perjury.
So Julie WAS jilted, dumped, whatever you call it. Relationships either grow stronger or fall apart when tragedy strikes. Seems in this case it finished off a relationship which had probably run it's course. They were both really young anyway, more normal they would grow apart at that age, there was no reason why they should have married. imo
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #374 on: February 26, 2014, 08:33:AM »
So Julie WAS jilted, dumped, whatever you call it. Relationships either grow stronger or fall apart when tragedy strikes. Seems in this case it finished off a relationship which had probably run it's course. They were both really young anyway, more normal they would grow apart at that age, there was no reason why they should have married. imo


Maggie, according to the OS, "Jeremy ended their relationship.........." Ended/jilted/dumped/cast aside all seem to add up to the same thing to my way of thinking. Was also interested to learn that on her visit to the police on Sept 8th she was charged with burglary but the charge was withdrawn on Dec 5th, which sounds very much as if a "deal" had been arrived at.