72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991

[Caroline]

Perhaps Graheme can say how Sheila committed the massacre. He said yesterday Jeremy 'is' innocent. So it must be simple to explain. He created a scenario thread recently, so obviously is interested in them.

Please include Nevilles two phone calls. Nevilles brutal beating & Sheila's two shots, in the corner of her parents bedroom.

With a rifle

[Adam]

I believe it's been pointed out to you on numerous occasions that the reason we don't throw "stage sets" around is because none of us was there, yet you spend copious amounts of time trying to lure us into doing exactly what we ask you to refrain from and demanding that we do it in a certain way.

I have not asked anyone to do a scenario for weeks.

But Graheme said Jeremy 'is' innocent.

Another poster recently said Jeremy has been convicted for a crime he did 'not' commit.

If Jeremy is so obviously innocent, thought is would be easy to say how Sheila did it. Also thought Jeremys supporters would want to show everyone how Sheila did it.

The crime occurred in one house. Body locations & bullet allocations are common knowledge.

[Jane]

I have not asked anyone to do a scenario for weeks.

But Graheme said Jeremy 'is' innocent.

Another poster recently said Jeremy has been convicted for a crime he did 'not' commit.

If Jeremy is so obviously innocent, thought is would be easy to say how Sheila did it. Also thought Jeremys supporters would want to show everyone how Sheila did it.

The crime occurred in one house. Body locations & bullet allocations are common knowledge.

NOT having demanded a scenario for weeks DOESN'T entitle you to start doing so now.

So Grahame said Jeremy is innocent. SO WHAT??? You say he isn't. The only difference is Grahame doesn't make a nuisance of himself over his beliefs in the way that you do over yours.................neither is he as childish.

[Adam]

NOT having demanded a scenario for weeks DOESN'T entitle you to start doing so now.

So Grahame said Jeremy is innocent. SO WHAT??? You say he isn't. The only difference is Grahame doesn't make a nuisance of himself over his beliefs in the way that you do over yours.................neither is he as childish.

I have never said Jeremy 'is' guilty.

Just discussed the evidence. I said yesterday it is not impossible that he is innocent. But he would have to be the unluckiest man in the world.

[Jane]

I have never said Jeremy 'is' guilty.

Just discussed the evidence. I said yesterday it is not impossible that he is innocent. But he would have to be the unluckiest man in the world.

Adam, I'm willing to take a chance and say that, somewhere within the 2000 ish posts you've aimed at us, there are one or which see you implying Jeremy's guilt.................................and if I'm wrong, at least I can reasonably assure other members that looking for evidence of it will shut you up for a while

[Jan]

How about this posted by Adam - his words


"Jeremy killed for status, power & a million pounds in todays money. People have killed people they hated for less."

I would call that a  statement - not a question or discussion.

I don't care that it is obvious you 100% believe he is guilty but don't treat us as if we are stupid by pretending to debate. It is an insult to our intelligence

[Jane]

How about this posted by Adam - his words


"Jeremy killed for status, power & a million pounds in todays money. People have killed people they hated for less."

I would call that a  statement - not a question or discussion.

I don't care that it is obvious you 100% believe he is guilty but don't treat us as if we are stupid by pretending to debate. It is an insult to our intelligence

Awwwww Jansus, thank-you for that. I hadn't realized it would be QUITE so easy to find evidence. I'd hoped I'd provided him with something to amuse himself with to keep him out of out hair for a while. Guess we can now add "liar" to his catalogue of offences.

[Adam]

Yes I do believe Jeremy is guilty. And have said how he could have done it (scenario).

None of Jeremys supporters who strongly argue against me, have told me how Sheila did it (except one person). Claiming it is not appropriate to do so. Strange.

[Caroline]

Yes I do believe Jeremy is guilty. And have said how he could have done it (scenario).

None of Jeremys supporters who strongly argue against me, have told me how Sheila did it (except one person). Claiming it is not appropriate to do so. Strange.

We have all written scenarios at one time or another. However, your scenario on how Jeremy committed the crimes is as valuable as NOT writing one about how Sheila committed the murders because WE WEREN'T THERE!! The argument is that Sheila wouldn't have been strong enough being a small weak frail female. That's bollox - she was bigger than me and I don't think I would have any problem overpowering a wounded 61 year old male with a chronic back problem - if I ever needed to and ESPECIALLY if I had a rifle in my hand!!. Never fired one but it certainly doesn't look like rocket science ESPECIALLY for a farmers daughter who had been brought up around guns!!

[Adam]

We have all written scenarios at one time or another. However, your scenario on how Jeremy committed the crimes is as valuable as NOT writing one about how Sheila committed the murders because WE WEREN'T THERE!! The argument is that Sheila wouldn't have been strong enough being a small weak frail female. That's bollox - she was bigger than me and I don't think I would have any problem overpowering a wounded 61 year old male with a chronic back problem - if I ever needed to and ESPECIALLY if I had a rifle in my hand!!. Never fired one but it certainly doesn't look like rocket science ESPECIALLY for a farmers daughter who had been brought up around guns!!

There are lots of other things that need to be fitted into a Sheila scenario.

When did Neville make his 'mysterious' phone call to Jeremy or the police ?

How did she re load twice if she had no experience with guns ?

When did she reload twice ?

How could she do this if, as AE said she was so uncordinated ?

How did Sheila shoot herself twice ?

Why did Sheila put the silencer away ?

How did Sheila manage to do most of this between 3.26am - 3.48am ?

Why would Sheila be so keen to stop Neville making a phone call ?

Who pulled Sheila's legs after the second shot ?

Why did Sheila apparently shower after the murders ?

Why was there no gun residue on Sheila. After firing 26 shots & at least two after showering ?

The 14 points from Mumsnet.

Why was she in the corner of the bedroom with the mother she did not get along with. The father and children she was attached to, discarded ?

How did Sheila's blood get on the silencer ?

How did Sheila not have any marks after a fight with her father ?



Oh, and how could Sheila give Neville such a beating ? Breaking a bit of the rifle in the process. BW said Neville could control her with one arm.

[Jane]

There are lots of other things that need to be fitted into a Sheila scenario.

When did Neville make his 'mysterious' phone call to Jeremy or the police ?

How did she re load twice if she had no experience with guns ?

When did she reload twice ?

How could she do this if, as AE said she was so uncordinated ?

How did Sheila shoot herself twice ?

Why did Sheila put the silencer away ?

How did Sheila manage to do most of this between 3.26am - 3.48am ?

Why would Sheila be so keen to stop Neville making a phone call ?

Who pulled Sheila's legs after the second shot ?

Why did Sheila apparently shower after the murders ?

Why was there no gun residue on Sheila. After firing 26 shots & at least two after showering ?

The 14 points from Mumsnet.

Why was she in the corner of the bedroom with the mother she did not get along with. The father and children she was attached to, discarded ?

How did Sheila's blood get on the silencer ?

How did Sheila not have any marks after a fight with her father ?



Oh, and how could Sheila give Neville such a beating ? Breaking a bit of the rifle in the process. BW said Neville could control her with one arm.

There is nothing in the above which isn't repetition. The questions have been answered time and again. If they haven't provided the answers you want, tough!! I for one, won't waste time and effort on them.

[Adam]

Ok. Just answer the first question as I do not know the answer.

At what stage did Neville phone Jeremy & the police ?

Thank you.

[Jane]

Ok. Just answer the first question as I do not know the answer.

At what stage did Neville phone Jeremy & the police ?

Thank you.

Guess what, Adam? Neither do I!!! There really is no point in hazarding a guess which you UNDOUBTEDLY will tell me is wrong.

[Adam]

Guess what, Adam? Neither do I!!! There really is no point in hazarding a guess which you UNDOUBTEDLY will tell me is wrong.

Was it when she was shooting 15 bullets into June & the twins. Neville decided not to save them & ran downstairs to make his phone calls.

Or was it before any shots were fired. Neville realiasing he would not be able to wrestle the gun off her.

The most believable thing is Sheila shot Neville upstairs & on the stairs. Then turned her attention on June. Shooting her with the remaining five bullets. Once she ran out of bullets she went downstairs to re load & saw Neville on the phone, where the fight took place.

[Jan]

Adam - just give up - if as we believe it was SC then she was in the middle of a psychotic episode caused by her illness - so you can APPLY no logic to the sequence.

you don't know that the twins were not shot dead with one shot each and she went back afterwards with more shots. You don't now that she had just not grabbed the gun - but not shot anyone when he made the call for help?

you don't know and we don't know.

You could say you would overpower a girl pointing a rifle at you - but if it actually happened you can not predict your reaction.

it is a waste of time.

you are trying to reach into the minds of those that were there on the night - which is futile as you did not know them and neither did we.