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Offline Adam

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #165 on: February 23, 2014, 10:26:AM »


Odd, isn't it, that there were no reports of hair, blood and human tissue being on it.

The carpet that was removed ? Or the gun butt ? How else would the butt have fallen off.
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #166 on: February 23, 2014, 10:32:AM »
The carpet that was removed ? Or the gun butt ? How else would the butt have fallen off.




That's not for me to say. What I can say is that it would seem impossible to beat someone hard enough to break the skin and not leave traces on the implement used. However, to my knowledge, none was spoken of.

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #167 on: February 23, 2014, 10:32:AM »
Oh yes. That will really convict him at trial. His footprints being in his family house.

Jeremy struggled with Neville. Hitting him so hard with the gun, the butt broke. Further blows damaged his jaw, neck, laryx & teeth. Jeremy would have worn gloves.
And leaving none of his bloodied footprints in doing so? Now that suggestion is bordering on the rediculous. He struggled in a life and death struggle and he leaves no forensic evidence whatsoever? Now can you see why Taff Jones held onto the true facts that Sheila did it even when the relatives came blundering into his office. An experienced policeman and a veteran being so wrong on such a vital thing? Can't you see how he was taken off the case and someone else who were in favour for some reason of the relatives version of events. And how convenient the forensic evidence of footprints of the perpetrator left out of the equation? Come on Steve most of the forensic evidence was left out of the trial and was not presented to the jury at all.

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #168 on: February 23, 2014, 10:34:AM »
The carpet that was removed ? Or the gun butt ? How else would the butt have fallen off.
Together with all the other forensic evidence. I really cannot believe that such a fight took place without leaving a mountain of forensic evidence. It just doesn't make sense to me?
But Taff Jones was one of the first there and he saw the evidence for himself befor the police themselves removed it.
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #169 on: February 23, 2014, 10:39:AM »
And leaving none of his bloodied footprints in doing so? Now that suggestion is bordering on the rediculous. He struggled in a life and death struggle and he leaves no forensic evidence whatsoever? Now can you see why Taff Jones held onto the true facts that Sheila did it even when the relatives came blundering into his office. An experienced policeman and a veteran being so wrong on such a vital thing? Can't you see how he was taken off the case and someone else who were in favour for some reason of the relatives version of events. And how convenient the forensic evidence of footprints of the perpetrator left out of the equation? Come on Steve most of the forensic evidence was left out of the trial and was not presented to the jury at all.

So why was he found guilty. The mountain of circumstantial evidence & curious coincidences ?

The police admitted they got it wrong early on. Taff Jones most of all.

The judge said one of the reasons they got it wrong was because they had been lead in that direction. By Jeremy. It was not surprising that the police would intially never think Jeremy could possibly kill his own family.
 
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #170 on: February 23, 2014, 10:50:AM »
So why was he found guilty. The mountain of circumstantial evidence & curious coincidences ?

The police admitted they got it wrong early on. Taff Jones most of all.

The judge said one of the reasons they got it wrong was because they had been lead in that direction. By Jeremy. It was not surprising that the police would intially never think Jeremy could possibly kill his own family.

And yet in a blink of an eye without question they accepted that SC DID do it. Why do you think that was the case Adam? Why did they not question it at all? Why send in a team to reconstruct the scene - contaminating the crime scene and then why did they destroy evidence so quickly? Why not do a thorough search - why not take other guns for evidence etc. etc?

Why argue with the family so strongly that they were wrong?

I think that the only thing that convicted JB was the silencer - and the fact that the Jury did not hear everything that went on whilst the police were outside.

 


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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #171 on: February 23, 2014, 10:51:AM »
So why was he found guilty. The mountain of circumstantial evidence & curious coincidences ?

The police admitted they got it wrong early on. Taff Jones most of all.

The judge said one of the reasons they got it wrong was because they had been lead in that direction. By Jeremy. It was not surprising that the police would intially never think Jeremy could possibly kill his own family.
He was found guilty because most of the mountain of evidence was kept from the court and from the jury. No doubt this includes the vital forensic evidence ie the bloodied footprints of Sheila and the bloodied carpets that the police destroyed (not as some have said at the instructions of Jeremy) In fact in so doing they destroyed all the vital evidence that would have aquitted him. I hold the view that Taff Jones was absolutely right in the first place. Things changed because someone listened to the relatives with their contaminated silencer "evidence" so called. We just don't have to listen to the tissue of lies created in the dark mind of Julie Mugford at all.
Furthermore the photographic evidence that proved that police had Moved Sheila was rejected by the appeal judge because he said that the photographs lied in effect and that the police didn't lie. Just how that can be I am at a loss?

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #172 on: February 23, 2014, 10:54:AM »
The judge said at the trial that Jeremy could not be found guilty on the silencer evidence alone? Why was that I wonder? Do you think he had doubts in his mind as to the genuiness of that silencer? Strange remark to have made.

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #173 on: February 23, 2014, 10:56:AM »
And yet in a blink of an eye without question they accepted that SC DID do it. Why do you think that was the case Adam? Why did they not question it at all? Why send in a team to reconstruct the scene - contaminating the crime scene and then why did they destroy evidence so quickly? Why not do a thorough search - why not take other guns for evidence etc. etc?

Why argue with the family so strongly that they were wrong?

I think that the only thing that convicted JB was the silencer - and the fact that the Jury did not hear everything that went on whilst the police were outside.

I answered that in my previous post. Jeremy had received a frantic phone call from dad. Sheila was a 'nutter' & Jeremy had left a loaded gun lying around.

Did you not read my 19 reasons, 14 reasons & Judges curious coincidences ? Lots of witnesses testified against Jeremy. Why ?
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #174 on: February 23, 2014, 10:57:AM »
So why was he found guilty. The mountain of circumstantial evidence & curious coincidences ?

The police admitted they got it wrong early on. Taff Jones most of all.

The judge said one of the reasons they got it wrong was because they had been lead in that direction. By Jeremy. It was not surprising that the police would intially never think Jeremy could possibly kill his own family.


Sounds like the judge was saying were thick, stupid, eejits, numbskulls, every member of EP who attended the scene. Keystone cops comes to mind.

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #175 on: February 23, 2014, 10:59:AM »
I answered that in my previous post. Jeremy had received a frantic phone call from dad. Sheila was a 'nutter' & Jeremy had left a loaded gun lying around.

Did you not read my 19 reasons, 14 reasons & Judges curious coincidences ? Lots of witnesses testified against Jeremy. Why ?



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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #176 on: February 23, 2014, 11:01:AM »
The 19 reasons are mine. So are the Judges curious coincidences.
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #177 on: February 23, 2014, 11:04:AM »
He was found guilty because most of the mountain of evidence was kept from the court and from the jury. No doubt this includes the vital forensic evidence ie the bloodied footprints of Sheila and the bloodied carpets that the police destroyed (not as some have said at the instructions of Jeremy) In fact in so doing they destroyed all the vital evidence that would have aquitted him. I hold the view that Taff Jones was absolutely right in the first place. Things changed because someone listened to the relatives with their contaminated silencer "evidence" so called. We just don't have to listen to the tissue of lies created in the dark mind of Julie Mugford at all.
Furthermore the photographic evidence that proved that police had Moved Sheila was rejected by the appeal judge because he said that the photographs lied in effect and that the police didn't lie. Just how that can be I am at a loss?

So why have all his appeals dismally failed ?

Show me the alledged photographs.

The jury believed Julie.
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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #178 on: February 23, 2014, 11:05:AM »
The 19 reasons are mine. So are the Judges curious coincidences.



I'll allow that the most stupid ones probably are, Adam.

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Re: 72 page witness statement of Ann Eaton, made to COLP on 14 / 08/ 1991
« Reply #179 on: February 23, 2014, 11:30:AM »


I'll allow that the most stupid ones probably are, Adam.

So the 14 forensic reasons which are not mine, are not stupid ?
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