An alibi from Neville is better than no alibi at all :

[lookout]

My scenario (which matches the body location & bullet allocation) would have only taken Jeremy 10 minutes inside WHF.

He did the crime  at the latest 2.30pm as he rang Mugford around 3pm.

The cottages of the farm-workers were a lot nearer ! They only had yards to walk.

How strange that Sheila was still alive at that time and could have told the full story ? Via a 999 call ?

[grahameb]

Morning Adam

you are doing exactly what I try to avoid making up theories based on supposition and hearsay.  Everything you have posted in this post is your take on it and you seem to be adamant that you are so right and others who disagree with you are biased.  Had Jeremy murdred his family what difference would it have made Jeremy slow timing the police arrival on scene he would know they were all dead  and I just cannot grasp the point you are trying to make. Had Jeremy gone home to bed and waited like I have previously stated he would have been less of a suspect than he was what evidence would have linked him to the crime especially if he had not broken up with Julie and he would have had to hang onto the keys to WHF

Don't feed the troll Susan. History tells us that making up a story about his father phoning him was obviously not a great idea. End of. All the guilty lot can do is repeat themselves again and again. Just break the record. Why continue with these luny speculations?

[lookout]

I don't do verbal diarrhoea.

[maggie]

History tells us that making up a story about his father phoning him was obviously not a great idea. End of. All the guilty lot can do is repeat themselves again and again. Just break the record. Why continue with these luny speculations?

Well said Grahame, we are allowing him to continue with his propaganda by interacting with him.

He still hasn't answered what his true opinion on the discrepancies between the two telephone logs especially Sheila's age, unless his only opinion really is .......'so what'.

[Jane]

Well said Grahame, we are allowing him to continue with his propaganda by interacting with him.

He still hasn't answered what his true opinion on the discrepancies between the two telephone logs especially Sheila's age, unless his only opinion really is .......'so what'..................................

...........................Which probably says all there is to say about what his true interest is in this case/

[nugnug]

but he has got an albi from nevile a real albi look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu6L4Kvql9s

[Patti]

My scenario (which matches the body location & bullet allocation) would have only taken Jeremy 10 minutes inside WHF.

He did the crime  at the latest 2.30pm as he rang Mugford around 3pm.

Hi Adam

We could spend the next 20 years discussing scenarios, but they are meaningless without proper forensic and factual evidence.  You might wish to answer these couple of questions.

1, Were there any witnesses?

2, Did the SOCO's find any fibres or any fingerprints belonging to Jeremy in any of the upstairs rooms?

3, Did the police prove beyond a doubt that Jeremy got into WHF vis a bathroom window and exit through a kitchen window?

4 Was it really proven beyond a doubt the sequence of calls made that night?

5, Was there any proof that the bicycle was used?

6, Was it proven that Jeremy wore a wetsuit? 

7, The pathologist found that Sheila had undigested food in her stomach which meant she had eaten 2 to 3 hours prior to her death. Is this fact?

 :D :D :D :D

[nugnug]

i wonder should i just keeping spaming the thread with this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu6L4Kvql9s

[maggie]

i wonder should i just keeping spaming the thread with this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu6L4Kvql9s

It's very interesting don't you think nugnug.  The discrepancies between two logs one of which is supposed to be a copy of the other certainly makes it likely that Nevill made a phone call to the police that night.

[nugnug]

well with the documents presented in the video i don't see how anyone can deny that a phone call was made.

now people who think hes guilty could still work a theory around this evidence but i dont see how they can deny that this evidence exists.

[maggie]

well with the documents presented in the video i don't see how anyone can deny that a phone call was made.

now people who think hes guilty could still work a theory around this evidence but i dont see how they can deny that this evidence exists.

Also nugnug, after the murders there was a concerted effort by the police to see how long it would take Jeremy to get from WHF to Goldhanger via the shortest route.  Why would they care how long it took him if there hadn't been a reason for them to know this?
Can only conclude that they KNEW there had been 2 phone calls and were trying to see if he could have made both of them.

[nugnug]

well if the phone call hadent been made then he would of had all the time in world so a time and motion wouldn't of been necessary.

so clearly the police did believe that the phone call happened.

[susan]

Ha Ha Ha Grahame I only feed Adam my scraps I wont even tell him about my scenario's and I think he gets quite cross with  me I have told him if he starts posting in a serious manner I will respond likewise

[grahameb]

but he has got an albi from nevile a real albi look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu6L4Kvql9s

Yes nugnug the discrepances are too many to be an error. They certainly appear to be two entirely different logs. The fact that one of them was not presented in court shows that Bamber's defence team did not do their work very well.

[maggie]

Yes nugnug the discrepances are too many to be an error. They certainly appear to be two entirely different logs. The fact that one of them was not presented in court shows that Bamber's defence team did not do their work very well.

That may be the reason or the second log may not have been released for the defence to see.  The police sat on various documents at the trial which left the defence at a huge disadvantage.  Scot Lomax writes about it.