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Re: Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
« Reply #255 on: October 22, 2014, 04:26:PM »
By the way, the Redcare system referred to will try the cellular network if the landline is cut, but that's possible only in areas with reception. There are still many remote farms that aren't covered now, let alone when Redcare was introduced.

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« Reply #256 on: October 22, 2014, 11:58:PM »
The same reason Bonnett's had other entries- there was a shift change.  It is the scond page of West's log the C1 page is the first.

Mike ignores anything that is inconvenient to his arguments. He is still insisting there was an alarm plugged into the phone socket in the bedroom even though there was no such thing as a portable alarm in those days to plug into the phone socket.  There would be an alarm panel and a phone line would be run to that alarm panel.  They needed a different phone line for it.  In the 1990s is when they perfected a syste to be able to use a single house line for both phone use and the alarm.
The alarm was I believe installed after the murders? I do in fact know where the alarm button was/is and it wasn't/isn't in the bedroom. Unfortunately I can't tell you where it is because I was told in confidence and it could put the family in danger if the public knew.

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« Reply #257 on: October 23, 2014, 09:07:AM »
The alarm was I believe installed after the murders? I do in fact know where the alarm button was/is and it wasn't/isn't in the bedroom. Unfortunately I can't tell you where it is because I was told in confidence and it could put the family in danger if the public knew.



Er, isn't that rather like closing the stable door AFTER the event? My friends' had alarms, fitted by the police, installed in every room of their home until the danger was passed after which they were removed.

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« Reply #258 on: October 23, 2014, 09:22:AM »


Er, isn't that rather like closing the stable door AFTER the event? My friends' had alarms, fitted by the police, installed in every room of their home until the danger was passed after which they were removed.
Well yes it is isn't it? But Vidvic told me that it was. Perhaps after such a horrific event the family felt vulnerable? I know there was a relative in the home where my wife worked. She was slightly schizophrenic and she was absolutely terrified that Bamber would escape and come after her.

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« Reply #259 on: October 23, 2014, 09:31:AM »
Well yes it is isn't it? But Vidvic told me that it was. Perhaps after such a horrific event the family felt vulnerable? I know there was a relative in the home where my wife worked. She was slightly schizophrenic and she was absolutely terrified that Bamber would escape and come after her.


But I don't imagine alarms are installed for "perceived" threats :D

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« Reply #260 on: October 23, 2014, 10:11:AM »
Well yes it is isn't it? But Vidvic told me that it was. Perhaps after such a horrific event the family felt vulnerable? I know there was a relative in the home where my wife worked. She was slightly schizophrenic and she was absolutely terrified that Bamber would escape and come after her.

You're not talking about a panic alarm are you?
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« Reply #261 on: October 23, 2014, 10:25:AM »
You're not talking about a panic alarm are you?
Well yes Caroline. That is the impression Vic gave me. He even told me that there is a button to be pressed. I should imagine though that they also have a conventional burglar alarm, possibly connected to an alarm company?

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« Reply #262 on: October 23, 2014, 10:29:AM »
I had a panic alarm installed around 15 years ago.

The main unit was upstairs in my bedroom, but there were two buttons, one in the bedroom and one one downstairs in the living room. They were installed at a certain height so my kids couldn't activate it by mistake

Also, a panic alarm will over ride a 999 call.
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« Reply #263 on: October 23, 2014, 10:39:AM »
I had a panic alarm installed around 15 years ago.

The main unit was upstairs in my bedroom, but there were two buttons, one in the bedroom and one one downstairs in the living room. They were installed at a certain height so my kids couldn't activate it by mistake

Also, a panic alarm will over ride a 999 call.
Hi Andrea, how who was it connected to, an alarm company, or the police call centre?

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« Reply #264 on: October 23, 2014, 10:50:AM »
Some of these alarms are connected to the telephone via a twin plug.One for the alarm,one for the phone. Which plugs into the phone socket,ordinarily. They normally have electrical back-up.

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« Reply #265 on: October 23, 2014, 10:51:AM »
Well yes Caroline. That is the impression Vic gave me. He even told me that there is a button to be pressed. I should imagine though that they also have a conventional burglar alarm, possibly connected to an alarm company?

Grahame, Vic made a mistake about the panic button, we had a LONG debate about it about a year and a half ago and he said he asked AE who confirmed their was no panic button EVER at WHF, the only panic button she knew of was one installed at the caravan park after the robbery. There was an alarm installed after the murders but no panic button.
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« Reply #266 on: October 23, 2014, 10:53:AM »
Some of these alarms are connected to the telephone via a twin plug.One for the alarm,one for the phone. Which plugs into the phone socket,ordinarily. They normally have electrical back-up.
I know the burglar alarms have there own battery back-up in case the power goes down. I was called out in the middle of the night when one of these batteries failed. When they changed the battery it was ok.

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« Reply #267 on: October 23, 2014, 10:57:AM »
I know the burglar alarms have there own battery back-up in case the power goes down. I was called out in the middle of the night when one of these batteries failed. When they changed the battery it was ok.





I wouldn't like to rely on a battery back-up really. The same with my smoke alarms-----electric,much safer and above all reliable.

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« Reply #268 on: October 23, 2014, 11:09:AM »
Here is the link to Vic's explanation about the panic button - or lack there of.

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,4232.msg173041.html#msg173041
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« Reply #269 on: October 23, 2014, 11:14:AM »
Vic stated that a panic alarm was fitted after the murders but Jeremy told me there was only a security alarm fitted.
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