Telephone issue - Extravaganza...

[maggie]

Well it clearly was not an alibi was it. If anyone believes that then they are greater fools than I thought they were. In fact it would have been a greater alibi if he had NOT phoned. How stupid can guilters be? So blined by their scenarios that they cannot look at things logically. And they call Bamber intelligent and then foolish. A contradiction in terms.

Pretty poor alibi which puts you slap bang in the frame imo.

[susan]

Hi Grahame  I agree with you the phone calls seemed to have incriminated Jeremy more than given him an alibi.  Lets have the truth about these phone calls as I suspect unto now we have not had it.

[Adam]

Adam how do you know everyone was dead when Jeremy arrived at WHF with the police were you present.  I think you will find that was not the case and time may answer the question.  You make such bold statements black or white with you Adam no grey area

Sorry Crispy was still alive. Jeremy when asked by Jones on the night whether he wanted to take the dog said -

'You must be joking, I won't have that animal near my house, damaging all my stereo equipment. Get rid of it. Have it put down . I hate the fucking thing'.

Jones was surprised at Jeremys response.

[maggie]

Hi Grahame  I agree with you the phone calls seemed to have incriminated Jeremy more than given him an alibi.  Lets have the truth about these phone calls as I suspect unto now we have not had it.

As far as I can see, Jeremy did put himself centre stage by claiming there was a phone call which couldn't be proven.  If it was him who committed the murders he would not have done that, am pretty sure. 
If you had just killed 5 people including 2 young nephews and you were even half human you would need time to clean up gather your wits, calm down, maybe eat and have a sleep.  You would NOT surely dash home, half clean up, ring the police and present yourself back at WHF cool as a cucumber in double quick time.  It's a crazy idea and almost impossible imo.

[susan]

Adam I agree Julie would not have been happy if Jeremy's equipment had been damaged Ann did not want the poor old dog and Jeremy asked her if she would take it to the Vet and have the doggie put to sleep and that is all Crispy must have been fit for as a Vet would not have given the injection. Jeremy and Crispy were not the best of buddies at least he told the truth.

[susan]

Hello Maggie I agree too ridiculous to even contemplate Jeremy making up such a story about phone calls he did not have the cunning for this kind of thinking.

[Adam]

Overall, the phone call from Neville is not a bad idea.

It created several hours of mayhem outside WHF where Sheila apparently had the gun & was still alive, or had killed everyone. Once the raid team enter the house, what do they see ? A dead Sheila with a gun by her !

The police knew nothing about Jeremy.  They believed Jeremys father would phone him if Jeremys own sister was going crazy. Why would Jeremy lie ?

[Adam]

As far as I can see, Jeremy did put himself centre stage by claiming there was a phone call which couldn't be proven.  If it was him who committed the murders he would not have done that, am pretty sure. 
If you had just killed 5 people including 2 young nephews and you were even half human you would need time to clean up gather your wits, calm down, maybe eat and have a sleep.  You would NOT surely dash home, half clean up, ring the police and present yourself back at WHF cool as a cucumber in double quick time.  It's a crazy idea and almost impossible imo.

He did have time to clean up. And phone Mugford.

Eat & have a sleep ? He would be much too focused to do that.

[maggie]

Sorry Crispy was still alive. Jeremy when asked by Jones on the night whether he wanted to take the dog said -

'You must be joking, I won't have that animal near my house, damaging all my stereo equipment. Get rid of it. Have it put down . I hate the fucking thing'.

Jones was surprised at Jeremys response.

Adam Jeremy had just been told that 5 members of his family were dead.  Once again he cannot win as he keeps wandering from your script.  He has every right to say what he wants even if you don't like it.  I believe Ann Eaton didn't want poor old Crispy anyway and she had him put down.

You still haven't answered the question about the discrepancies about the two logs.  Any ideas.  You seem to be so sure of everything else, you are very quiet about this 

[Adam]

Adam I agree Julie would not have been happy if Jeremy's equipment had been damaged Ann did not want the poor old dog and Jeremy asked her if she would take it to the Vet and have the doggie put to sleep and that is all Crispy must have been fit for as a Vet would not have given the injection. Jeremy and Crispy were not the best of buddies at least he told the truth.

So Julie indirectly takes the blame for Crispy's death ?

[susan]

Adam I am very surprised at Jeremy's response imagine swearing like that to a police officer what is the world coming to.

[Adam]

Adam Jeremy had just been told that 5 members of his family were dead.  Once again he cannot win as he keeps wandering from your script.  He has every right to say what he wants even if you don't like it.  I believe Ann Eaton didn't want poor old Crispy anyway and she had him put down.

You still haven't answered the question about the discrepancies about the two logs.  Any ideas.  You seem to be so sure of everything else, you are very quiet about this 

I would have thought a mumbled 'yes'or 'no' in between shock & tears would have been more appropriate. Jeremy knew exactly why he did not want Crispy & exactly what could be done with him.

You have asked me this several times & I have answered.

[maggie]

I would have thought a mumbled 'yes'or 'no' in between shock & tears would have been more appropriate. Jeremy knew exactly why he did not want Crispy & exactly what could be done with him.

You have asked me this several times & I have answered.

Where's the answer Adam, I seem to have missed it, sorry 

[Adam]

Maybe Neville phoned the police ! And EP are lying when they say they never received a call from Neville.

What is you're explanation ?

[maggie]

I would have thought a mumbled 'yes'or 'no' in between shock & tears would have been more appropriate. Jeremy knew exactly why he did not want Crispy & exactly what could be done with him.

You have asked me this several times & I have answered.

You are still writing a script for Jeremy and he just refuses to stick to it which is your proof he's guilty.  You seem to have no idea at all about the different ways traumatised people respond to the sudden violent death of one person never mind all 5 members of your only family.