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Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
« on: December 25, 2013, 01:47:AM »
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Re: Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
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Re: Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2013, 02:05:AM »
Imagine, for one moment that the handset of the telephone at the scene had not been replaced upon its cradle, but had simply been placed upon the kitchen worktop?
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Re: Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2013, 02:38:AM »
How come Ann Eaton thought Jeremy did it from GET GO? Taking notes from day 1 How does that make sense?

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« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2013, 04:17:PM »
How come Ann Eaton thought Jeremy did it from GET GO? Taking notes from day 1 How does that make sense?



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Re: Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2013, 08:17:PM »
I don't see the "musical phones" remark attributed by housekeeper Jean Boutell,but given that the telephones were moved around those last few days and also given the disruption to the telephone network by the lightning strike there is still Jeremy's remark to her about the digital telephone in the kitchen not working,when Jean knew full well that that particular telephone had been operational in the days before the murders. One can only surmise that Jeremy had unplugged the kitchen telephone and hidden it under magazines in order to bring down the dial face telephone from the master bedroom so as to deprive his parents of a telephone and lifeline in that room.

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Re: Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2013, 08:25:PM »
I don't see the "musical phones" remark attributed by housekeeper Jean Boutell,but given that the telephones were moved around those last few days and also given the disruption to the telephone network by the lightning strike there is still Jeremy's remark to her about the digital telephone in the kitchen not working,when Jean knew full well that that particular telephone had been operational in the days before the murders. One can only surmise that Jeremy had unplugged the kitchen telephone and hidden it under magazines in order to bring down the dial face telephone from the master bedroom so as to deprive his parents of a telephone and lifeline in that room.






Steve,read Jean Boutells' statement,,it's all there about musical phones,because they were shifted around so much.

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Re: Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2013, 08:55:AM »
My understanding regarding the digital phone found amongst some magazines in the corner of the kitchen, is that when Jeremy spoke to the house cleaner, and told her that it was "one of ours", that he was referring to it as being a replacement which had recently been given to the Bambers due to the original one being damaged in an earlier lightening strike (I think in July 1985). Jeremy told me, that the digital phone being spoken about, was not the original phone, but a replacement one...

During discussions with him, I gathered that the replacement phone usually fitted in the main kitchen, had been unplugged a day or so before the shootings occurred, as a result of another lightening strike which damaged Ralphs portable phone, which was duly collected by a GPO engineer, without being replaced. From what I could gather, or at least my understanding of the situation, is that the replacement digital phone was unplugged from the kitchen socket merely as a precaution, and put to one side, whilst Ralph / June brought the round finger dial phone downstairs from the bedroom and it was plugged into the kitchen socket.

« Last Edit: December 26, 2013, 09:07:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2013, 09:02:AM »
My understanding regarding the digital phone found amongst some magazines in the corner of the kitchen, is that when Jeremy spoke to the house cleaner, and told her that it was "one of ours", that he was referring to it as being a replacement which had recently been given to the Bambers due to the original one being damaged in an earlier lightening strike (I think in July 1985). Jeremy told me, that the digital phone being spoken about, was not the original phone, but a replacement one...

During discussions with him, I gathered that the replacement phone usually fitted in the main kitchen, had been unplugged a day or so before the shootings occurred, as a result of another lightening strike which damaged Ralphs portable phone, which was duly collected by a GPO engineer, without being replaced. From what I could gather, or at least my understanding of the situation, is that the replacement digital phone was unplugged from the kitchen socket merely as a precaution, and put to one side, whilst Ralph / June brought the round finger dial phone downstairs from the bedroom and it was plugged into the kitchen socket...

I gathered from my discussions with Jeremy regarding these matters, that the Bambers suspected that the upstairs office and downstairs kitchen socket were vulnerable to the risk of lightning strikes, and this was the reason the round finger dial phone had been brought downstairs, simply because there was less a risk of that phone becoming damaged in the event of a further lightening strike, since very little could go wrong with the round finger phone, such as the plungers on the cradle becoming stuck. Another digital phone normally plugged in at the upstairs office had been damaged, and was the actual phone which got replaced...
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Re: Telephone issue - Extravaganza...
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2013, 09:19:AM »
I also find the following very interesting:-
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« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2013, 09:23:AM »
I also find the following very interesting:-

(See Above)...

Based upon this, and proving the criteria mentioned had been met, Jeremy might have to wait for up to a minute or two after he replaced the handset of his telephone upon its cradle, before being able to make a separate call out using his own phone...
« Last Edit: December 26, 2013, 09:23:AM by mike tesko »
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