Photograph of Shiela on the bed

[Kaldin]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

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There is no evidence that Neville had been sleeping or resting in that bed that night - unless you can direct me towards it...

Well since that was his bed I think it's reasonable to assume that he was in it at some point that night. There's no evidence that Sheila was on the bed either ....

[Kaldin]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

Well, not just from Nevill, if Sheila's head was resting on it when the photo was taken.

The point is that there is no evidence that Sheila ever had her head on that pillow.

[mike tesko]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

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There is no evidence that Neville had been sleeping or resting in that bed that night - unless you can direct me towards it...

Well since that was his bed I think it's reasonable to assume that he was in it at some point that night. There's no evidence that Sheila was on the bed either ....

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There are only womens clothes on the chairs in the bedroom, nothing to suggest that a man such as Ralph had removed his clothes in the bedroom and got into bed...

Only womens clothing in the bedroom...

It gives a big clue...

in my opinion...

[mike tesko]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

Well, not just from Nevill, if Sheila's head was resting on it when the photo was taken.

The point is that there is no evidence that Sheila ever had her head on that pillow.

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Photograph exits to prove it, and there was an indent upon the pillow where Sheila's head was resting...

Plus, DC Clark told Ann Eaton within an hour of him seeing Sheila's body ion the bed, that her body was found on the bed -  why would he lie about something like that?

[Alex]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

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There is no evidence that Neville had been sleeping or resting in that bed that night - unless you can direct me towards it...

Well since that was his bed I think it's reasonable to assume that he was in it at some point that night. There's no evidence that Sheila was on the bed either ....

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There are only womens clothes on the chairs in the bedroom, nothing to suggest that a man such as Ralph had removed his clothes in the bedroom and got into bed...

Only womens clothing in the bedroom...

It gives a big clue...

in my opinion...

The socks could be men's socks.  Also we know Ralph at least changed into his pyjamas.  And it was a cold night, so had he been asleep elsewhere in the house I would imagine he'd have needed blankets.  Would they have even collected/looked for evidence of where he had been asleep?  I realise that some of the policemen speculated that Sheila may have been sitting with June reading the bible (although I don't know where this is stated), but is there any evidence of further speculation regarding what Ralph was doing?

[Kaldin]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

Well, not just from Nevill, if Sheila's head was resting on it when the photo was taken.

The point is that there is no evidence that Sheila ever had her head on that pillow.

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Photograph exits to prove it, and there was an indent upon the pillow where Sheila's head was resting...

Plus, DC Clark told Ann Eaton within an hour of him seeing Sheila's body ion the bed, that her body was found on the bed -  why would he lie about something like that?

But such a photograph is not available so it's just hearsay at the moment. To state that the indent is where her head was is misleading. 

DC Clark might not have lied. Perhaps he misunderstood what someone told him, or perhaps Ann Eaton misunderstood what he told her.

[Kaldin]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

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There is no evidence that Neville had been sleeping or resting in that bed that night - unless you can direct me towards it...

Well since that was his bed I think it's reasonable to assume that he was in it at some point that night. There's no evidence that Sheila was on the bed either ....

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There are only womens clothes on the chairs in the bedroom, nothing to suggest that a man such as Ralph had removed his clothes in the bedroom and got into bed...

Only womens clothing in the bedroom...

It gives a big clue...

in my opinion...

I don't think it's possible to see exactly what clothes were in the room.

According to Woodcock, a bed in Sheila's room had been used. Do you think that Nevill might have used it?

[Alex]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

Well, not just from Nevill, if Sheila's head was resting on it when the photo was taken.

The point is that there is no evidence that Sheila ever had her head on that pillow.

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Photograph exits to prove it, and there was an indent upon the pillow where Sheila's head was resting...

Plus, DC Clark told Ann Eaton within an hour of him seeing Sheila's body ion the bed, that her body was found on the bed -  why would he lie about something like that?

But such a photograph is not available so it's just hearsay at the moment. To state that the indent is where her head was is misleading. 

DC Clark might not have lied. Perhaps he misunderstood what someone told him, or perhaps Ann Eaton misunderstood what he told her.

As long as that photo is being withheld, it is possible for people to speculate that ether DC Clark mispoke/misunderstood or Ann Eaton misunderstood, which for whatever reason is presumably what EP want, since the album which contains/ed the photograph which Mike refers to was disclosed on a confidential basis.

[mike tesko]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

Well, not just from Nevill, if Sheila's head was resting on it when the photo was taken.

The point is that there is no evidence that Sheila ever had her head on that pillow.

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Photograph exits to prove it, and there was an indent upon the pillow where Sheila's head was resting...

Plus, DC Clark told Ann Eaton within an hour of him seeing Sheila's body ion the bed, that her body was found on the bed -  why would he lie about something like that?

But such a photograph is not available so it's just hearsay at the moment. To state that the indent is where her head was is misleading. 

DC Clark might not have lied. Perhaps he misunderstood what someone told him, or perhaps Ann Eaton misunderstood what he told her.

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Photograph of Sheila on the bed exists, and it will be produced, I feel confident about that because although it is currently being withheld under pii rules, it is possible to get such material released if its content would tend to, or might, help to prove or establish someones innocence - well, my point on this is that because there was no blood running from the corners of Sheila's mouth when she was photographed on the bed, and there was no blood running into her left eye socket, what this means is that the police must have moved her body from the bed to the floor and stage managed it there. The photograph which I have seen and which I am talking about, would prove beyond doubt that Jeremy Bamber could not have killed his sister in the bedroom and stage managed her body on the floor by the side of the bed, because of the absence of blood running from the corners of her mouth, and into her eye socket when she was photographed on the bed...

As soon as that photograph is released, that will spell the end of Jeremy's incarceration as far as I am concerned - the agencies of the state will not be able to get away with it a moment longer...

And...

Ewen Smith (Now a Commissioner with the CCRC) was convinced in 2003 that after he went to see DR Craig (police surgeon) that Sheila was found on the bed, not on the floor, and that Dr Craig and PI "Bob" Miller, had both made false witness statements about where Sheila's body was allegedly found, and examined by him?

[Kaldin]

Why would they have put June on the floor in that particular position then?

[Kaldin]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

Well, not just from Nevill, if Sheila's head was resting on it when the photo was taken.

The point is that there is no evidence that Sheila ever had her head on that pillow.

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Photograph exits to prove it, and there was an indent upon the pillow where Sheila's head was resting...

Plus, DC Clark told Ann Eaton within an hour of him seeing Sheila's body ion the bed, that her body was found on the bed -  why would he lie about something like that?

But such a photograph is not available so it's just hearsay at the moment. To state that the indent is where her head was is misleading. 

DC Clark might not have lied. Perhaps he misunderstood what someone told him, or perhaps Ann Eaton misunderstood what he told her.

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Photograph of Sheila on the bed exists, and it will be produced, I feel confident about that because although it is currently being withheld under pii rules, it is possible to get such material released if its content would tend to, or might, help to prove or establish someones innocence - well, my point on this is that because there was no blood running from the corners of Sheila's mouth when she was photographed on the bed, and there was no blood running into her left eye socket, what this means is that the police must have moved her body from the bed to the floor and stage managed it there. The photograph which I have seen and which I am talking about, would prove beyond doubt that Jeremy Bamber could not have killed his sister in the bedroom and stage managed her body on the floor by the side of the bed, because of the absence of blood running from the corners of her mouth, and into her eye socket when she was photographed on the bed...

As soon as that photograph is released, that will spell the end of Jeremy's incarceration as far as I am concerned - the agencies of the state will not be able to get away with it a moment longer...

And...

Ewen Smith (Now a Commissioner with the CCRC) was convinced in 2003 that after he went to see DR Craig (police surgeon) that Sheila was found on the bed, not on the floor, and that Dr Craig and PI "Bob" Miller, had both made false witness statements about where Sheila's body was allegedly found, and examined by him?

I hope you're right Mike, I really do. I don't think you're making it up, but without that picture your theory is going nowhere.

Not sure about Dr Craig. He said that Sheila had dried blood on her face which had come from her mouth when he saw her.

[mike tesko]

Why would they have put June on the floor in that particular position then?

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They must have taken them both off the bed and put June up against the bedroom door, but her body slipped down into the position it ended up being photographed in, by PC Bird (SOC) at around 10 O'clock, and Sheila was put onto the floor - possibly so that they could check the bed for evidence...

[Kaldin]

Why would they have put June on the floor in that particular position then?

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They must have taken them both off the bed and put June up against the bedroom door, but her body slipped down into the position it ended up being photographed in, by PC Bird (SOC) at around 10 O'clock, and Sheila was put onto the floor - possibly so that they could check the bed for evidence...

Why would they put June up against the bedroom door? They would have had to have put her in a very awkward position for her to to have slipped down that way.

[Kaldin]

Also, there was blood all over the bedroom floor, and it's been said it was June's blood. Did she get out of bed and then get in again before she was fatally shot?

[mike tesko]

If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

Well, not just from Nevill, if Sheila's head was resting on it when the photo was taken.

The point is that there is no evidence that Sheila ever had her head on that pillow.

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Photograph exits to prove it, and there was an indent upon the pillow where Sheila's head was resting...

Plus, DC Clark told Ann Eaton within an hour of him seeing Sheila's body ion the bed, that her body was found on the bed -  why would he lie about something like that?

But such a photograph is not available so it's just hearsay at the moment. To state that the indent is where her head was is misleading. 

DC Clark might not have lied. Perhaps he misunderstood what someone told him, or perhaps Ann Eaton misunderstood what he told her.

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Photograph of Sheila on the bed exists, and it will be produced, I feel confident about that because although it is currently being withheld under pii rules, it is possible to get such material released if its content would tend to, or might, help to prove or establish someones innocence - well, my point on this is that because there was no blood running from the corners of Sheila's mouth when she was photographed on the bed, and there was no blood running into her left eye socket, what this means is that the police must have moved her body from the bed to the floor and stage managed it there. The photograph which I have seen and which I am talking about, would prove beyond doubt that Jeremy Bamber could not have killed his sister in the bedroom and stage managed her body on the floor by the side of the bed, because of the absence of blood running from the corners of her mouth, and into her eye socket when she was photographed on the bed...

As soon as that photograph is released, that will spell the end of Jeremy's incarceration as far as I am concerned - the agencies of the state will not be able to get away with it a moment longer...

And...

Ewen Smith (Now a Commissioner with the CCRC) was convinced in 2003 that after he went to see DR Craig (police surgeon) that Sheila was found on the bed, not on the floor, and that Dr Craig and PI "Bob" Miller, had both made false witness statements about where Sheila's body was allegedly found, and examined by him?

I hope you're right Mike, I really do. I don't think you're making it up, but without that picture your theory is going nowhere.

Not sure about Dr Craig. He said that Sheila had dried blood on her face which had come from her mouth when he saw her.

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Other officers who allegedly saw Sheila after DR Craig carried out his very brief examination, described the blood that was coming out from the corner of her mouth as running and leaking...

What you have got to remember is that Dr Craig, and PI Miller, made a false witness statement about Sheila only having one wound? So, which wound was that one then?