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Offline mike tesko

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Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« on: March 09, 2011, 05:09:AM »
Photograph of Shiela on the bed - the photographer who took the picture was stood at the foot of the bed and there was no rifle at all, on her body, or on the bed. The bible was not on the body, or the bed. Both of her arms and hands, were positioned either side  of Shiela's body - the rear of her head was resting on the left hand pillows...
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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2011, 05:23:AM »
I have no recollection of seeing any blood trail leading into the left eye socket...
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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2011, 05:32:AM »
For the avoidance of doubt, I have no recollection of there being any blood coming from her mouth...
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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2011, 08:33:AM »
The photo available of the right side of the bed isn't very clear but from what I can see there doesn't appear to be much blood on the pillow. Are you suggesting that Sheila was shot and didn't bleed at all from her neck?

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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2011, 08:51:PM »
The photo available of the right side of the bed isn't very clear but from what I can see there doesn't appear to be much blood on the pillow. Are you suggesting that Sheila was shot and didn't bleed at all from her neck?
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When you speak of the right side of the bed, are you referring to the right side of the bed from the vantage point of the observer standing at the foot of the bed looking back towards the bed? Or, from the perspective of someone lying in bed?
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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2011, 08:55:PM »
From the perspective of lying in bed, ie the side where Sheila was found on the floor.

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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2011, 09:12:PM »
The photo available of the right side of the bed isn't very clear but from what I can see there doesn't appear to be much blood on the pillow. Are you suggesting that Sheila was shot and didn't bleed at all from her neck?
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There was blood on Sheila\'s neck / throat when I saw the picture of her on the bed - the back of her head was resting on the pillows, and as far as I know I do not know of any injuries that she had to the back of her head that might have caused the pillow on top to became blood stained...

The blood that was later photographed coming out of the corners of her mouth and into her left eye socket were made later when the police moved her body from the bed to the bedroom floor...

I know this must be true because there was no such blood there coming out from the corners of her mouth, or into her left eye socket, when she was on the bed...
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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2011, 09:16:PM »
If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...
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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2011, 09:18:PM »
The photo available of the right side of the bed isn't very clear but from what I can see there doesn't appear to be much blood on the pillow. Are you suggesting that Sheila was shot and didn't bleed at all from her neck?
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There was blood on Sheila\'s neck / throat when I saw the picture of her on the bed - the back of her head was resting on the pillows, and as far as I know I do not know of any injuries that she had to the back of her head that might have caused the pillow on top to became blood stained...

The blood that was later photographed coming out of the corners of her mouth and into her left eye socket were made later when the police moved her body from the bed to the bedroom floor...

I know this must be true because there was no such blood there coming out from the corners of her mouth, or into her left eye socket, when she was on the bed...

Thanks for clarifying this Mike.

There also exists a photo, doesn't there, taken at the mortuary, which shows even more blood on the face?  (Although I don't know that that's particularly relevant).

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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2011, 09:20:PM »
The photo available of the right side of the bed isn't very clear but from what I can see there doesn't appear to be much blood on the pillow. Are you suggesting that Sheila was shot and didn't bleed at all from her neck?
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There was blood on Sheila\'s neck / throat when I saw the picture of her on the bed - the back of her head was resting on the pillows, and as far as I know I do not know of any injuries that she had to the back of her head that might have caused the pillow on top to became blood stained...

The blood that was later photographed coming out of the corners of her mouth and into her left eye socket were made later when the police moved her body from the bed to the bedroom floor...

I know this must be true because there was no such blood there coming out from the corners of her mouth, or into her left eye socket, when she was on the bed...

Thanks for clarifying this Mike.

There also exists a photo, doesn't there, taken at the mortuary, which shows even more blood on the face?  (Although I don't know that that's particularly relevant).
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Such photographs do exist, but I do not have access to them...
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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2011, 10:09:PM »
Re the mortuary photo which shows what appears to be wet blood.  I read a lot conflicting opinions on this forum re the potential affect of flash photography.  Has any photographic expert involved in the case given a professional opinion about that particular photo?

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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2011, 10:14:PM »
The photo available of the right side of the bed isn't very clear but from what I can see there doesn't appear to be much blood on the pillow. Are you suggesting that Sheila was shot and didn't bleed at all from her neck?
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When you speak of the right side of the bed, are you referring to the right side of the bed from the vantage point of the observer standing at the foot of the bed looking back towards the bed? Or, from the perspective of someone lying in bed?

Sorry - left side if you were standing at the foot of the bed. I would expect there to be some blood there if she had been shot there.

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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2011, 10:16:PM »
If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2011, 10:18:PM »
If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...

Well, not just from Nevill, if Sheila's head was resting on it when the photo was taken.

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Re: Photograph of Shiela on the bed
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2011, 10:20:PM »
If you look carefully enough, you can see an impression on the top pillow, where the back of Sheila's head was resting at some point before 10 am...

Or it could be from Nevill ...
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There is no evidence that Neville had been sleeping or resting in that bed that night - unless you can direct me towards it...
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