New silencer tests set to cast serious doubt upon safety of convictions...

[lookout]

I have RWB's diary entry ringing in my ears. "How I loathe that boy" would seem to suggest a very long held dislike of his nephew It seems to have been he who dripped every available drop of poison regarding Jeremy into Nevill's ear. Might it have been that there was acrimony between Bambers and Boutflowers that we know nothing of?

Hi April. Oh I think so. Whatever's happened,had been smouldering/festering for a number of years,,and I would say that some of it boils down to a lot of jealousy when Jeremy came into the Bamber household,,as he'd be the natural heir to whatever the farming future had in store.

[tyler]

I agree April. RWB said that the Boutflours always used to go to whf for christmas,but this had stopped in the years leading up to the murders. It appears that it was only AE that visted whf...once a month for her horses hay. I don't believe for one minute that these families were close at all toward the end.

[Caroline R]

I agree April. RWB said that the Boutflours always used to go to whf for christmas,but this had stopped in the years leading up to the murders. It appears that it was only AE that visted whf...once a month for her horses hay. I don't believe for one minute that these families were close at all toward the end.

I agree, they seem to know very little about the Bamber's routine and personal lives e.t.c. Their relationship seems to have been centred on business.

[Jane]

I agree, they seem to know very little about the Bamber's routine and personal lives e.t.c. Their relationship seems to have been centred on business.

I'm going to play devil's advocate here, so PLEASE don't all jump on me at once. If we consider that a third person pulled the trigger, MIGHT it be possible that Jeremy knew?

[lookout]

I'm going to play devil's advocate here, so PLEASE don't all jump on me at once. If we consider that a third person pulled the trigger, MIGHT it be possible that Jeremy knew?

Don't worry April,,I've mulled over that myself but can't think of an accomplice. Anyway,my mind won't believe it.

[mrstiggywinkle]

Don't worry April,,I've mulled over that myself but can't think of an accomplice. Anyway,my mind won't believe it.

I can.

Who found or directed someone to find the silencer?

[Caroline R]

I can.

Who found or directed someone to find the silencer?

David Boutflour found the silencer but there is really no possibility of him being an accomplice to Jeremy!

[Jane]

David Boutflour found the silencer but there is really no possibility of him being an accomplice to Jeremy!

Is that an absolute Caroline? Just askin'

[Caroline R]

Is that an absolute Caroline? Just askin'

You honestly think that Jeremy would languish in prison while DB had freedom? I think had that been the case he'd have grassed him up and made him take the same punishment and would probably be out now.

[Jane]

You honestly think that Jeremy would languish in prison while DB had freedom? I think had that been the case he'd have grassed him up and made him take the same punishment and would probably be out now.

Caroline, I'm just tossing this around, but having maintained innocence for so long it might be that it was too hard to tell the truth. He must have been in shock for a long time. All those dreadful trial photos make him look shocked as opposed to shifty.

[Caroline R]

Caroline, I'm just tossing this around, but having maintained innocence for so long it might be that it was too hard to tell the truth. He must have been in shock for a long time. All those dreadful trial photos make him look shocked as opposed to shifty.

DB certainly wouldn't have taken the chance - it's not the best theory I have ever heard and almost as far fetched as Sheila being lead to hear death 'passively'

[lookout]

I can.

Who found or directed someone to find the silencer?

I was thinking older,mrstiggywinkle.

[mrstiggywinkle]

You honestly think that Jeremy would languish in prison while DB had freedom? I think had that been the case he'd have grassed him up and made him take the same punishment and would probably be out now.

Let's just suppose it was Jeremy and DB regardless of who pulled the trigger(s) and which gun(s) were used.

Jeremy would know full well that if he dobbed DB in, he himself would never get out.

As it is, if Jeremy maintains innocence and it is shown to be a completely unsafe conviction, then all those people that have grabbed WHF and the cash will have to get out and repay the inheritances.

That IMO is why they are in fear and dread Jeremy's release.

[maggie]

Let's just suppose it was Jeremy and DB regardless of who pulled the trigger(s) and which gun(s) were used.

Jeremy would know full well that if he dobbed DB in, he himself would never get out.

As it is, if Jeremy maintains innocence and it is shown to be a completely unsafe conviction, then all those people that have grabbed WHF and the cash will have to get out and repay the inheritances.

That IMO is why they are in fear and dread Jeremy's release.

I cannot go with DB and Jeremy working together, that is surely beyond the realms of possibility even though I agree in theory anything is possible ... just!!
I do agree with you about the inheritance etc, it must be a frightening prospect for all concerned and that is what they are really scared about, not the prospect of Jeremy turning up with a gun again and shooting them. 

[Caroline R]

Let's just suppose it was Jeremy and DB regardless of who pulled the trigger(s) and which gun(s) were used.

Jeremy would know full well that if he dobbed DB in, he himself would never get out.

As it is, if Jeremy maintains innocence and it is shown to be a completely unsafe conviction, then all those people that have grabbed WHF and the cash will have to get out and repay the inheritances.

That IMO is why they are in fear and dread Jeremy's release.

Unless it could be PROVED that they conspired to have him locked up, then why would they have to give up anything? I'm not a fan of the relatives but I don't think we can simply make those kind of accusations with nothing to substantiate them. There is nothing to suggest that DB had anything to do with the murders and we need to be careful in what we might suggest. Another reason why I HATE scenarios!!