The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[susan]

Grahame  You called

[susan]

Adam Yes I'm here

[Adam]

What exactly was Sheila doing when Neville phoned Jeremy ?

[lookout]

The conclusion I've come to is that the relatives appeared to know an awful lot that went on ? They practically put the case together ! How was that,I wonder ?

[Adam]

The conclusion I've come to is that the relatives appeared to know an awful lot that went on ? They practically put the case together ! How was that,I wonder ?

The relatives did not believe Sheila was capable of the murders. The only other suspects were Jeremy & Crispy.

[lookout]

The relatives did not believe Sheila was capable of the murders. The only other suspects were Jeremy & Crispy.

Is that why CC said " she's finally done it ?"

[Patti]

Colin Caffell testified that 'Jeremy had left him with the impression that Neville was already wounded when he telephoned'.

On oath in the trial Jeremy had said he could not recall Neville being injured.

Left him with the impression is not saying that Jeremy had told him that he was injured....

[grahameb]

The relatives did not believe Sheila was capable of the murders. The only other suspects were Jeremy & Crispy.

It was crispy. He barked orders all over the place.

[lookout]

It was crispy. He barked orders all over the place.

Of course,Grahame,,the operator heard it.

[Reader]

. . . errors carried out by EP (i.e possibly moving her - as they did the rifle by their own admission).

On this forum, we have two photographs of her body on the floor, with not just the rifle (and her right arm) differently positioned, but the rest of her body moved slightly as well.

[tyler]

Adam,Judge did not say Nevill was fit when he made phonecall. Prosecution alleged that Nevill received the facial shot upstairs and that would have rendered him unable to speak to anyone. Defence allege he received that shot downstairs 'after' telephone call. Nevill's facial injuries ie damaged jaw etc were due to a gunshot wound and NOT from any beating as you keep stating. Have told you this before,so stop posting inaccuracies!

[grahameb]

Adam,Judge did not say Nevill was fit when he made phonecall. Prosecution alleged that Nevill received the facial shot upstairs and that would have rendered him unable to speak to anyone. Defence allege he received that shot downstairs 'after' telephone call. Nevill's facial injuries ie damaged jaw etc were due to a gunshot wound and NOT from any beating as you keep stating. Have told you this before,so stop posting inaccuracies!

How on earth can they say a thing like that Tyler? No one knows when he received the facial shot.

[Adam]

I have not read that Neville was not beaten. Jeremys supporters say Sheila did this after shooting & killing Neville in the head downstairs.

Neville had two black eyes. Damaged jaw, teeth, neck & larynx. The rifle had a dent on, probably from Nevilles head. The judge said the rifle caused some severe injuries to Neville. Not sure how three rifle bullets causes all those injuries to Neville.

I do not believe Neville was shot in the head upstairs. The pathologist in court said a head shot would make it not possible to go up or down stairs.

The four shots upstairs hit Neville in the torso. Another shot on the stairs hit Neville in the back. There was then a big kitchen fight between a fired up Jeremy who had run out of bullets & an injured Neville.The judge said Neville put up a fight for life. Jeremy had to stop him using the phone so there was no time to load.

[grahameb]

I have not read that Neville was not beaten. Jeremys supporters say Sheila did this after shooting & killing Neville in the head downstairs.

Neville had two black eyes. Damaged jaw, teeth, neck & larynx. The rifle had a dent on, probably from Nevilles head. The judge said the rifle caused some severe injuries to Neville. Not sure how three rifle bullets causes all those injuries to Neville.

I do not believe Neville was shot in the head upstairs. The pathologist in court said a head shot would make it not possible to go up or down stairs.

The four shots upstairs hit Neville in the torso. Another shot on the stairs hit Neville in the back. There was then a big kitchen fight between Jeremy (who had run out of bullets) & Neville.The judge said Neville put up a fight for life.

The butt of the rifle had a piece chipped out of it from either hitting Nevill, or from hitting a surrounding object.

[campion]

Grahame, the piece of wood from the butt of the rifle (Anschutz) - possibly broken off in the melee from striking the Aga, was this used to wedge the door, in front of which Nevill was slumped?
Has JB ever said a wedge was used for keeping that door open?

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