The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[lookout]

Morning lookout

heard the news and I immediately thought of Jeremy and the insinuations he had to tolerate.  The world has some very wicked people in it.  Happy Christmas to you and pusskins xx

Morning Susan,,I too thought immediately of Jeremy and the way he was treated and spoken about,as though he was some sort of leper. Of course,Jeremy would just annoy everyone,knowing that he'd " upset and annoyed " them by dressing up and using make-up,,that was his way of sending his message across,instead of telling them all to bog off and mind their own business.
Yes,,the world is an evil place at times. A Happy Christmas to you as well,and to all the surrogate pets.xx

[maggie]

When the phone rings at 3am in the morning,it usually indicates one thing,,and that's an emergency/death. When I used to work nights,this was the time,sadly,that those who were expected to die,did so,as it's the lowest point,timewise, in a persons' life,particularly those who are unwell in some way.

I would agree lookout that a phone ringing at 3am always seems ominous and the urge to answer is very strong.
Could imagine Jeremy hearing the phone and getting to it and answering while he was still half asleep.

[susan]

Maggie  Jeremy would be half asleep at 3 a.m. but would answer the phone as would most other than Adam   He now has an answering machine and an autocue

[Jane]

You're talking about what YOU would do. You obviously believe that everyone is like you - it could have been off for all sorts of reasons but if it was an integral part of the plan, all he had to do was remove it from view. However, there it was, still in place!!

There was a call from Nevill.

 Adam seems to lack the ability to see beyond his own, somewhat limited!!! frame of reference.

[Adam]

Dictionary definition of 'mysterious' -

Difficult or impossible to understand, explain, or identify.



Nevilles alledged phone call was certainly those things. 

[Adam]

Adam after reading your posts from last night maybe you should start asking people for help as your posts are repetitive to say the least biased and inaccurate.  Happy days.

Just wanted to know how Jeremy woke up, got out of bed & to the downstairs phone before the answering machine started working.

No one had a definate answer, but apparently it is normal to unplug answering machines.

What bad luck for Jeremy as a saved message from Neville would have cleared him.

[Jan]

Dictionary definition of 'mysterious' -

Difficult or impossible to understand, explain, or identify.



Nevilles alledged phone call was certainly those things.

Only in your mind!  Not in ours . Go and get on with your Christmas .

[susan]

Adam get your autocue updated Happy Christmas.

[Adam]

Only in your mind!  Not in ours . Go and get on with your Christmas .

It is not in my mind. It is in a dictionary.

[Nickos]

I do agree with you on that . But why in one statement does it appear that the family were told the same thing by the police? It would take me a while to find it - but it is in a statement.

The irony that I am prepared to accept is that maybe, and only maybe, Sheila was at one stage on the bed when the police entered the bedroom - this does not exclude JB from killing her, but adds to the scene confusion and the list of errors carried out by EP (i.e possibly moving her - as they did the rifle by their own admission).

However Sheila could have been on the floor and Chinese whispers were later misinterpreted by Ann (and others) as to where Sheila was first seen on entering the bedroom.


 

[Nickos]

None of you 19 reasons are neccessarily true. It is just you guessing, nothing more.

Nevill (according to JB) said that Sheila had the gun, not that she was firing it. If she had been shooting, I think he would have said so in the call, not just "she´s got".

Not necessarily true, but all to me are reasonably logical. We are all guessing to some degree on here.

And whilst we are on my pet subject, if Sheila was shooting there is even less chance Nevill would be on the phone (bearing in mind there is no way Nevill would be on the phone with a person gone crazy with a gun - sorry I just had to add the last bit  - I hope Caroline has me on ignore )

[Patti]

The irony that I am prepared to accept is that maybe, and only maybe, Sheila was at one stage on the bed when the police entered the bedroom - this does not exclude JB from killing her, but adds to the scene confusion and the list of errors carried out by EP (i.e possibly moving her - as they did the rifle by their own admission).

However Sheila could have been on the floor and Chinese whispers were later misinterpreted by Ann (and others) as to where Sheila was first seen on entering the bedroom.

Hi Nikos )

I believe that at some point it was possible that Sheila was placed on the bed. The fact they photographed the floor under her body suggests she had been moved.  It could well have been when the funeral directors had come to take her, or Sheila was moved to take the photograph.  There is one if you read Macdonnell's  report....

[Alias]

Not necessarily true, but all to me are reasonably logical. We are all guessing to some degree on here.

And whilst we are on my pet subject, if Sheila was shooting there is even less chance Nevill would be on the phone (bearing in mind there is no way Nevill would be on the phone with a person gone crazy with a gun - sorry I just had to add the last bit  - I hope Caroline has me on ignore )

I don´t believe Sheila had started shooting when Nevill called - that would have been difficult, I agree. And yes, of course I am guessing!

[Nickos]

You're doing the same thing 

The print on the shot gun means nothing? You simply don't have an good enough explanation so you dismiss it..

Your 'repel' theory is just simply ridiculous but you know that!! You just can't explain it so you ridicule. You did the same thing with the bible print.

Yes, it means nothing, you now give me your reasons for why it means something?

You seem to avoid a lot of my questions, but I try to answer yours - just because you don't like or understand the answers is more your problem 

Yes the repel was just thrown in, but you don't dismiss my other theory of Nevill asking Sheila to move the shotgun (at anytime during her and the twins stay).

So let's hear your theory about Sheila's print on the shotgun?

[Nickos]

You support his 19 reasons? They don't even make any sense!! 

Yes, they make sense to me - If they don't to you maybe its because of limited reasoning or common sense