The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Jane]

People either know something or they don't. I ask questions sometimes. It is a discussion gorum.I do not ask anyone to look up things for me.

Then why point out that you've not received an answer? Can you not accept that maybe NO answer means precisely that and you're not required to keep re posting as a reminder.

[Jane]

Kitchen door downstairs. Thank you.

That is very interesting.

Firstly it makes it even less likely Neville will call. He will know Jeremy is fast asleep. His phone is downstairs. If he does answer, it will not be for a long time.

Secondly there is no possibility Jeremy will wake up, decide to answer the phone, turn the lights on and walk downstairs,  before the answer machine has come on.

Neville did 'Not' make the call.

But this is only what's going on in YOUR mind. You CANNOT know what others do/think.

[Adam]

Then why point out that you've not received an answer? Can you not accept that maybe NO answer means precisely that and you're not required to keep re posting as a reminder.

Another poster said all my questions had been answered. None had.

One has been answered recently - the location of Jeremys phone.

Does anyone know how many rings it had until the answer machine came on. Also whether it was a loud or quiet phone. I am not asking anyone to research for it.

[Jane]

Another poster said all my questions had been answered. None had.

One has been answered recently - the location of Jeremys phone.

Does anyone know how many rings it had until the answer machine came on. Also whether it was a loud or quiet phone. I am not asking anyone to research for it.

But you ARE pushing your luck!!!!!!!!!!

[Adam]

But this is only what's going on in YOUR mind. You CANNOT know what others do/think.

Come on April.

Jeremy has a phone downstairs. If he has a trendy quiet phone & his bedroom door is shut, he will not hear it.

If he does hear it, there is no way he will reach it before Neville has started or even finished his message.

So why was there no message ?

[Alias]

Another poster said all my questions had been answered. None had.

One has been answered recently - the location of Jeremys phone.

Does anyone know how many rings it had until the answer machine came on. Also whether it was a loud or quiet phone. I am not asking anyone to research for it.

OK, now I am getting seriously peed off! How the f#%&" would we know that?! What is wrong with you? Why don´t you write to Jeremy and ask him, I´ve been told he answers all letters, now leave us alone with your stupid questions!

[Adam]

OK, now I am getting seriously peed off! How the f#%&" would we know that?! What is wrong with you? Why don´t you write to Jeremy and ask him, I´ve been told he answers all letters, now leave us alone with your stupid questions!

This is a Jeremy Bamber forum. People know things I don't & vice versa.

It is extremley important.

The fact that Jeremy had an answer phone & his phone was downstairs means it is even less likely Neville phoned him.

Jeremy has been lying for 28 years.

[Alias]

This is a Jeremy Bamber forum. People know things I don't & vice versa.

It is extremley important.

The fact that Jeremy had an answer phone & his phone was downstairs means it is even less likely Neville phoned him.

Jeremy has been lying for 28 years.

Write to him and ask him. You know very well that asking us is moot and that no one here knows how long or how loud Jeremy´s phone rang before it went to answering machine, IF AM was on, IF perhaps it was full and could not take more messages.
Ask him, stop asking us, I am sure he will answer you. Happy to help.

[grahameb]

I am fully aware of schizophrenia(please get over that word along with the other 99% of the population). The salient point is statistically they represent far more of a harm to themselves than others and in my opinion Sheila falls within this category.

Why? She could equally fall into the other category? That is the problem with schitzophrenia isn't it, the fact that no one knows how they react?

[Jane]

Come on April.

Jeremy has a phone downstairs. If he has a trendy quiet phone & his bedroom door is shut, he will not hear it.

If he does hear it, there is no way he will reach it before Neville has started or even finished his message.

So why was there no message ?

Well, firstly we're talking about 1985 and I had no trouble in hearing my downstairs phone prior to the "luxury" of having one in the bedroom. I don't recall having the option of a "trendy quiet" phone. I slept with the bedroom door open because old cottages become extremely hot in high summer.

Your argument is entirely hypothetical because you're ASSUMING and to make any part of it fit, ALL your assumptions will have to fall into place.

[Adam]

Jeremys answer machine will be permanently on. Turning an answering machine off & on. Ridiculous.

However if questioned Jeremy will say it was off as he would not be able to explain why there was no message.

So how many rings would Neville let the phone ring for without getting an answer ? Ten, eight, fifty ? Not forgetting Sheila has 'gone crazy & has got the gun'.

[Alias]

Well, firstly we're talking about 1985 and I had no trouble in hearing my downstairs phone prior to the "luxury" of having one in the bedroom. I don't recall having the option of a "trendy quiet" phone. I slept with the bedroom door open because old cottages become extremely hot in high summer.

Your argument is entirely hypothetical because you're ASSUMING and to make any part of it fit, ALL your assumptions will have to fall into place.

"trendy quiet phone"... Almost sounds like someone jealous Jeremy...
What is a "trendy quiet phone" anyway - how did they sound back in the eighties? LOL I AM laughing now actually! 

[grahameb]

Come on April.

Jeremy has a phone downstairs. If he has a trendy quiet phone & his bedroom door is shut, he will not hear it.

If he does hear it, there is no way he will reach it before Neville has started or even finished his message.

So why was there no message ?

I wonder why the question referring to the answer phone was not asked in court? Was it that there was nothing on it? Or was it that there was something on it yet the prosecution held that evidence back?
The reason that I am curious is that if there was nothing on the answering machine and that was confirmed in court then the judge would not have referred to it as the "mysterious" phone call. For they would have known for sure that he did not receive that call.
Why then didn't they present the answering machine as evidence? For Jeremy could have been cross examined about whether it was on or off. But if it was on as you suggest, then why was this not stated in court?

[Adam]

Well, firstly we're talking about 1985 and I had no trouble in hearing my downstairs phone prior to the "luxury" of having one in the bedroom. I don't recall having the option of a "trendy quiet" phone. I slept with the bedroom door open because old cottages become extremely hot in high summer.

Your argument is entirely hypothetical because you're ASSUMING and to make any part of it fit, ALL your assumptions will have to fall into place.

That is right. I will not assume unless I can justify this.

To be honest, Jeremy said himself when interviewed by police he phoned Julie first. He then said he was not sure before eventually saying he phoned her afterwards. Why did he phone her at all ? Jeremy said 'no comment'.

This explains why there was no message on Jeremys answering machine. He was already awake after returning from WHF.

[Jane]

"trendy quiet phone"... Almost sounds like someone jealous Jeremy...
What is a "trendy quiet phone" anyway - how did they sound back in the eighties? LOL I AM laughing now actually! 

Alias, in 1985, to my knowledge/memory, phones RANG and if they didn't  we called the telephone people who fiddled around with them till either they DID ring OR they gave us a new one. House phones weren't "trendy" and cream ones were thought to be very chic. Mobiles which were just becoming popular were the size of house bricks.