The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Adam]

Any information on this April ?

Steve says Jeremy had an answer machine. Jeremy probably had a hi tec quiet phone rather than a loud dial up.

If it was in another room, how did a 'sleeping like a log' Jeremy get to it before the answer machine clicked in ? And how would he hear it ?

[Jane]

Jeremy does not seem the type to answer the phone at 3am in case there was a family emergency.

That is why he would have bought an answer machine.

Not many posts back you were resenting being treated as if you were still at school. If you persist in convincing us that you are, you'll be treated as such.

[Alias]

Why answer the phone at 3am if he had an answering machine ?  Let the phone ring & listen to the message as it is being said. Once you realise Neville is in distress, pick the receiver up.

Sorry, but this is just silly!

[Adam]

A saved message from Neville would have cleared Jeremy.

Bad luck or a curious coincidence ?

[Jane]

Any information on this April ?

Steve says Jeremy had an answer machine. Jeremy probably had a hi tec quiet phone rather than a loud dial up.

If it was in another room, how did a 'sleeping like a log' Jeremy get to it before the answer machine clicked in ? And how would he hear it ?

You appear to be the one who believes he has all the answers, so go look. It's tiring in the extreme to search for information for you when all you're capable of is arguing with the findings OR asking puerile questions for which unless one was there, there can be no answer other than supposition.

[Reader]

. . . there is an apparent log showing a call from his father to the police - no one choses to believe that . . .

We've seen it, but the jury never saw it. Its wording wasn't discussed at the trial.

Why answer the phone at 3am if he had an answering machine?

That's a reasonable question, but we don't know whether the answering machine was in use at the time. Jeremy seems not to have been asked about that and not to have made any comment about it either. Some people routinely disconnect their answering machine when they get home.

[Adam]

You appear to be the one who believes he has all the answers, so go look. It's tiring in the extreme to search for information for you when all you're capable of is arguing with the findings OR asking puerile questions for which unless one was there, there can be no answer other than supposition.

It is a reasonable question. One you do not have the answer to.

[Steve_uk]

They are all reasonable points Adam makes. From what we know of Jeremy he couldn't wait to get away  from the farm on a daily basis,his car always being described as speeding away from the  farm. I would have thought under  these circumstances even at 3am Jeremy would have been the type to wait for the caller to speak and then pick up,thus leaving some record of Nevill's  call.

[susan]

steve when Jeremy arrived home from work he would turn the answering machine off until the following morning. IMO.

[Adam]

grasping at straws springs to mind. It seems that you are very much in tune with his mind, very alike. You seem to know everything he thinks and every decision he makes. Its amazing.

Cluthing at straws ? Some answering machines click into action within three rings. Jeremy would have had to be awake to answer it in time.

Oh sorry he was. As he had already phoned Mugford. So why tell the police & courts Nevilles call woke him up ?

[Adam]

steve when Jeremy arrived home from work he would turn the answering machine off until the following morning. IMO.

Why turn an answering machine off & on ? It will be permanently on.

If Jeremys phone was not in his bedroom, he did not receive Nevilles call.

[susan]

Adam I know people who turn their answering machine off and I know some who forget to turn it back on.  Reader will explain he is the expert on phones etc.,

[Adam]

Phone rings at 3am:

Some people hear it. Some do not.

People who hear it either ignore it or answer it.

Some people will let it ring & then listen to the message in real time. Either going back to sleep or picking the phone up while the caller is still speaking.


However Jeremy woke up instantly from a deep sleep, perhaps got out of bed to go into another room, then answered the phone before Neville had a chance to start leaving a message.

[Steve_uk]

steve when Jeremy arrived home from work he would turn the answering machine off until the following morning. IMO.

That's possible. He gave details of the television programmes he watched,so we know he did not fall asleep in his chair as some after a hard day's work are wont to do. Was the programme on miscarriages the trigger,with Jeremy recollecting Sue Ford's miscarriages and the children Jeremy never had,whilst Sheila had two installed at the White House that very moment. Did Jeremy reach for the cocaine as he steeled himself for that dastardly nocturnal journey and a way out of his current lifestyle which could only be endured at best through the ingestion of central nervous system stimulants,as he determined there and then that he would henceforth be master of his own destiny..

[susan]

Adam go and look and do not expect poor april to do all your research she has done so much for you already