The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Adam]

Caroline did the same thing you have just done Patti.

Neville would have to agree with you on each of the 19 points.

If he agreed with me on just  one or two points, he would surely not phone Jeremy.

[Adam]

Neville in the excitement may not have thought of 19 reasons.

He may have just thought of one or two of these. That would still be enough to stop him phoning.

Sub conciously he may have most or some of these reasons in his mind. Phoning Jeremy would never have crossed his mind.

[maggie]

Caroline did the same thing you have just done Patti.

Neville would have to agree with you on each of the 19 points.

If he agreed with me on just  one or two points, he would surely not phone Jeremy.

Adam, you will probably think me picky but Nevill Bamber was NOT in the army, he had been a fighter pilot in the RAF for a couple of years before being invalided out after breaking his back.  He would not be trained heavily in one to one combat only enough to be able to handle himself if he came down in enemy territory and any experience he had was over 40 years before.  So that part of that point is null and void I am afraid. 

[Jan]

Curious Hi, good to hear from you again.

Let's be clear, Mike has no such evidence - it's simply a ruse.

If he has got it then show it.

If he hasn't (which he hasn't) let's just drop it!

See my strap line below

I do agree with you on that . But why in one statement does it appear that the family were told the same thing by the police? It would take me a while to find it - but it is in a statement.

[Patti]

Caroline did the same thing you have just done Patti.

Neville would have to agree with you on each of the 19 points.

If he agreed with me on just  one or two points, he would surely not phone Jeremy.

Caroline is a good girl like me, she also likes a challenge ....You can't categorically say Neville would not phone Jeremy....You don't know and neither do I..We do know Jeremy phoned Julie and she told him to go back to bed....and Jeremy phoned the police. 

[Jan]

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[Jan]

Caroline did the same thing you have just done Patti.

Neville would have to agree with you on each of the 19 points.

If he agreed with me on just  one or two points, he would surely not phone Jeremy.

Adam I could think of 19 reasons why you should stop posting the same thing over and over again. But I guess that would not stop you either .You cant apply logic to free will - or even over someone elses mind

[Patti]

Adam I could think of 19 reasons why you should stop posting the same thing over and over again. But I guess that would not stop you either .You cant apply logic to free will - or even over someone elses mind

LOL.............................

[lookout]

Adam I could think of 19 reasons why you should stop posting the same thing over and over again. But I guess that would not stop you either .You cant apply logic to free will - or even over someone elses mind

I'm afraid Adam doesn't think that anyone else should have an opinion as to what went on at WHF.

[Adam]

Caroline is a good girl like me, she also likes a challenge ....You can't categorically say Neville would not phone Jeremy....You don't know and neither do I..We do know Jeremy phoned Julie and she told him to go back to bed....and Jeremy phoned the police. 

Well as stated there are several reasons why Neville would not phone Jeremy.

Did Jeremy say Neville said  'Sheila's gone crazy & she's got the gun' ? This suggests either Sheila is firing the gun or is threatening to. Either way, Neville would be caught in the moment trying to resolve the situation. He would have no choice.

[Alias]

Well as stated there are several reasons why Neville would not phone Jeremy.

Did Jeremy say Neville said  'Sheila's gone crazy & she's got the gun' ? This suggests either Sheila is firing the gun or is threatening to. Either way, Neville would be caught in the moment trying to resolve the situation. He would have no choice.

None of you 19 reasons are neccessarily true. It is just you guessing, nothing more.

Nevill (according to JB) said that Sheila had the gun, not that she was firing it. If she had been shooting, I think he would have said so in the call, not just "she´s got".

[Adam]

Neville would also be fully fit at this time.

There was no blood on the phone & the judge said Neville would have difficulty speaking with his injuries.

[susan]

Alias  think the Judge at Trial agreed with all Adam's 19 points if not he should have done and the Trial would have been over much quicker.

[Adam]

None of you 19 reasons are neccessarily true. It is just you guessing, nothing more.

Nevill (according to JB) said that Sheila had the gun, not that she was firing it. If she had been shooting, I think he would have said so in the call, not just "she´s got".

Some of the 19 points are facts.

Neville did answer the phone around 10am.

People in court tesified that Neville hated his parents.

Jeremy did say Neville liked to keep things in the family.

Jeremy did phone the police.

Jeremy had worked a long day on the farm.

The caravan site was broken into. Jeremy had not been prosecuted at this time.

Jeremy said in court he had a poor relationship with June.

Jeremy may not answer a ringing phone.

Jeremy will not be over for a long time.

Jeremy did not have a key to WHF.

Neville was putting his son in danger.

Dial up phones are slow. The numbers in Essex are long.

Jeremy has said recently he did not understand Sheila's illness.

Jeremy may not answer a ringing phone for a long time.

Neville was big & strong and the head of the family.

[lookout]

Neville would also be fully fit at this time.

There was no blood on the phone & the judge said Neville would have difficulty speaking with his injuries.

What else did your friend the judge have to say ?