The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[curiousessex]

on your reasoning the police have no reason not to release the information they have either?

And why did they destroy evidence against a court order - and was the original file lost in a burglary as they alleged?  And why was one police officer in tears when being questioned in the subsequent investigation. Nothing to hide? then release the info and let JB ( in your eyes ) waste his time.

Well that is not strictly true as the police may have some legitimate reasons for not releasing some or all or the information they have. The answer is I do not know whether any information is being withheld when it should be released.

Of course if it is the case information should be released then it should be released.

I do not think you can blame the police or offer the actions of the police as a valid and reasoned excuse for Mike not revealing information he has alleged he has which would prove Jeremy to be innocent.

In fact thinking about it if Mike were to reveal what he alleges he has the alleged state agency corruption involving the entire Criminal Justice System would, in my opinion, subsequently come crumpling down. There would be so much controversy and uproar the police and all would be forced to reveal absolutely everything they have in relation to Jeremy Bamber. I would go so far as predicting it would be the end of Essex Police in its current form with a merger with a neighbouring force being the most likely outcome.

[curiousessex]

You're addressing these points to the wrong person. I suggest you take them up with Mike.

I was specifically responding to your post and included some specifically detailed reasoning in explanation.

[Steve_uk]

I do not believe any such thing because Jeremy has not got a mental illness or a personality disorder, if he did have there would be more reason to believe his guilt was likely.  It is one of the reasons I do not believe him guilty because I believe a person of sound and healthy mind would not contemplate going into a house to kill 3 adults and two children with no more protection than a vermin gun and crossed fingers.  Neither do I believe anyone of healthy sound mind would be able to stand up to the horror and grotesque scenario of killing these people at close range and then coolly turning up outside the farmhouse and chatting to the police.  Only a person with a psychopathic personality could behave in such a way imo.
You obviously believe differently but this is my opinion.

Has the above paragraph been written with full knowledge of the catathymic crisis thread?

[Jane]

Has the above paragraph been written with full knowledge of the catathymic crisis thread?

It would seem to me that proving catathymic crisis is as possible as proving someone died whilst in the grip of a nightmare.

[maggie]

Has the above paragraph been written with full knowledge of the catathymic crisis thread?

Yes. I dont accept your theory Steve, sorry.

[Adam]

I do not believe any such thing because Jeremy has not got a mental illness or a personality disorder, if he did have there would be more reason to believe his guilt was likely.  It is one of the reasons I do not believe him guilty because I believe a person of sound and healthy mind would not contemplate going into a house to kill 3 adults and two children with no more protection than a vermin gun and crossed fingers.  Neither do I believe anyone of healthy sound mind would be able to stand up to the horror and grotesque scenario of killing these people at close range and then coolly turning up outside the farmhouse and chatting to the police.  Only a person with a psychopathic personality could behave in such a way imo.
You obviously believe differently but this is my opinion.

Jeremy hated his immediate family & also resented Sheila & the twins.

He was greedy, impatient & thought he could get away with it. He did not need a personality disorder to carry out the killings. Just a bike, loose window & loaded gun. It was worth the risk. His reaction after the murders showed he was not bothered.

Two 6 year olds, one 61 year old woman, one small woman & one man. All asleep. No problem. Just shoot them in the head with a silencer on while they sleep. Things did not quite go to plan. But he was so pleased with his nights work he boasted to Mugford at 3.12.

[Jan]

stop posting in statements. its your opinion and nothing else. If anything makes me sway towards JBs innocence its your posts.

Go and watch groundhog day . I seriously think you are in it.

[grahameb]

Jeremy hated his immediate family & also resented Sheila & the twins.

He was greedy, impatient & thought he could get away with it. He did not need a personality disorder to carry out the killings. Just a bike, loose window & loaded gun. It was worth the risk. His reaction after the murders showed he was not bothered.

Two 6 year olds, one 61 year old woman, one small woman & one man. All asleep. No problem. Just shoot them in the head with a silencer on while they sleep. Things did not quite go to plan. But he was so pleased with his nights work he boasted to Mugford at 3.12.

No he didn't Adam. He often played with the twins.

[Adam]

No he didn't Adam. He often played with the twins.

How sweet. Wherd did you read that ?

[Jan]

Jeremy hated his immediate family & also resented Sheila & the twins.

He was greedy, impatient & thought he could get away with it. He did not need a personality disorder to carry out the killings. Just a bike, loose window & loaded gun. It was worth the risk. His reaction after the murders showed he was not bothered.

Two 6 year olds, one 61 year old woman, one small woman & one man. All asleep. No problem. Just shoot them in the head with a silencer on while they sleep. Things did not quite go to plan. But he was so pleased with his nights work he boasted to Mugford at 3.12.

Do you know what IMO means ? Do you know what discussion means? Do you know what forums are for? No I thought not.   

[Steve_uk]

Jeremy hated his immediate family & also resented Sheila & the twins.

He was greedy, impatient & thought he could get away with it. He did not need a personality disorder to carry out the killings. Just a bike, loose window & loaded gun. It was worth the risk. His reaction after the murders showed he was not bothered.

Two 6 year olds, one 61 year old woman, one small woman & one man. All asleep. No problem. Just shoot them in the head with a silencer on while they sleep. Things did not quite go to plan. But he was so pleased with his nights work he boasted to Mugford at 3.12.

It's unforgivable really.

[maggie]

It's unforgivable really.

What is?

[Steve_uk]

What is?

The crime,and Jeremy's attempt to make money out of any opportunity,whether it's Osea Road,the jewellery robbery in New Zealand,the White House murders or his pursual of a miscarriage of justice claim.

[Steve_uk]

But you don't mind Julie making money out of it?

I have condemned Julie for that,or any other interested parties who stood to gain if the verdict went the other way for that matter..

[maggie]

The crime,and Jeremy's attempt to make money out of any opportunity,whether it's Osea Road,the jewellery robbery in New Zealand,the White House murders or his pursual of a miscarriage of justice claim.

What jewellry robbery ..... that's hearsay at best, Osea Road ...... would like to know the real truth about how that came about.
I think it's pretty unforgiveable how you quote hearsay or your own thoughts as fact.