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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #2055 on: December 16, 2013, 09:03:PM »
That could be it. Jeremy was concerned.

Wouldn´t be the first sibling/family member of a schizophrenic to be concerned....

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« Reply #2056 on: December 16, 2013, 09:04:PM »
I love a bit of banter.

But let us all discuss the case rather than get personel.

 People do not like me questioning Jeremys innocence & suggesting things.  Everyone on here supports Jeremy. Except Steve.

My arguments are good & I know a lot about the case. My arguments are often supported with documentation.

I answer all questions I see. Rather than telling people to research it themselves.
Well said Adam and I welcome you having your own views and fully support you posting them on here. :)

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« Reply #2057 on: December 16, 2013, 09:06:PM »
Well said Adam and I welcome you having your own views and fully support you posting them on here. :)

Thank you Grahame.

We have disagreed on most points. But discuss the points only.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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« Reply #2058 on: December 16, 2013, 09:08:PM »
My scensrio is a story. It also matched the crime scene & bullet allocation.

Is that the book which I  posted the 5 star reviews on here. I was not cherry picking the reviews. They all gave it 5 stars.

What have you read on Jeremy Bamber ?
If you read the ballistics evidence with an uncritical eye you will find that the crime scene and bullet allocation, on which you rely to draw your conclusions, is so compromised it is made worthless.
    Are you aware that the police destroyed all ballistics evidence in 1996 just at the time of huge advances in DNA science techniques? Why do you think they did this or do matters such as this not trouble you ?
    I have read many things over many years on this case and am not getting into a pissing contest with someone who knew very little 15 days ago by his own own admission.

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« Reply #2059 on: December 16, 2013, 09:32:PM »
We have both read up on the case. Good, we can discuss it & exchange information & views.

Jeremy had been convicted & lost an appeal by 1996. Suspect it was standard practice for things to be disposed.
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« Reply #2060 on: December 16, 2013, 09:38:PM »
It's not!

Tell me more. Or do I have to research it ?
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« Reply #2061 on: December 16, 2013, 09:49:PM »
Wasn´t there a court order to preserve that evidence?

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« Reply #2062 on: December 16, 2013, 10:49:PM »
Yes, there are cases that have been on-going for a lot longer than Jeremy's and the evience is still available. Strange how it was destroyed just as DNA techniques were developing!!

Yes, very strange.  ;)
Heard about a similar thing happening in a state in the US. The police officers and prosecutor were all held accountable and punihed for what they did, not to mention, they lost their jobs.

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« Reply #2063 on: December 17, 2013, 09:27:AM »
Tell me more. Or do I have to research it ?
Apparently evidence should not be destroyed where there is an ongoing appeal? It is strange that potentially important evidence was destroyed such as the tapes. But other less important stuff was not destroyed. Methinks the cops were covering their arses?
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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #2064 on: December 17, 2013, 10:35:AM »
Apparently evidence should not be destroyed where there is an ongoing appeal? It is strange that potentially important evidence was destroyed such as the tapes. But other less important stuff was not destroyed. Methinks the cops were covering their arses?




Plus EP are holding out on him by refusing the release of files/documents that are of relevence to the case,and most importantly,,,,,of the UTMOST importance to Jeremy. Why their refusal after so long ?
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« Reply #2065 on: December 17, 2013, 10:48:AM »



Plus EP are holding out on him by refusing the release of files/documents that are of relevence to the case,and most importantly,,,,,of the UTMOST importance to Jeremy. Why their refusal after so long ?
I can only assume that they would reveal a serious misconduct of certain police officers that may result in a full scale inquiry?

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« Reply #2066 on: December 17, 2013, 08:35:PM »
Like Hillsborough,you mean,Grahame,where 13 ex-officers are refusing to co-operate with the inquiry.
If they can do that,,they can do anything,eh.? What chance does Jeremy stand ? How long has that inquiry been now ?
I'm fast losing patience as it's like hitting your head against a brick wall,between the officers concerned and the rellies. Corruption Rules !

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #2067 on: December 17, 2013, 08:46:PM »
Is this somehow meant to imply that therefore Jeremy was planning a murder spree ?
    So a bloke enquires about the health of his sister in a chat with his brother in law and this leads you to believe ... what?
    Are you also aware that on being told the news of Sheila's spree, when it was believed by all that Sheila was responsible, that Colin was not surprised and said words to the effect that "she's finally done it" ?
 
An off the cuff remark similar to Jeremy's claim that the Police had killed his parents.Had Colin or social workers had any grounds to think Sheila a danger to her children they would not have left them in her care.

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« Reply #2068 on: December 17, 2013, 08:54:PM »
An off the cuff remark similar to Jeremy's claim that the Police had killed his parents.Had Colin or social workers had any grounds to think Sheila a danger to her children they would not have left them in her care.




Steve,,come on hun,,how many children are slipping through the net,nowadays ? Too many !

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« Reply #2069 on: December 17, 2013, 09:19:PM »



Steve,,come on hun,,how many children are slipping through the net,nowadays ? Too many !
..and I think political correctness might play some part as social workers are reluctant to take children from ethnic minority or immigrant parents.