The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[susan]

Alias/Maggie  I am quite perplexed at what Adam is trying to achieve with all the stuff he is posting up to try and discredit Jeremy who is serving a life sentence for murdering all his family.  He was found guilty in a Court of Law what is he hoping to achieve by posting all this stuff about Jeremy hated his parents what is he trying to prove.

[lookout]

Wasn't Jeremys' house at Goldhanger a " freebie ",rental-wise,,courtesy of his father ? Not far from his place of work. Jeremy knew he was more privileged,financially, than most his age. No doubt the upkeep of his car was also funded by Neville.

[Alias]

Part of Mugfords WS.

Truth or lie ?

Lie. If true: Julie should have been prosecuted for accessory to murder - along with her other crimes.

[Adam]

He said he had found a way in through a downstairs window which I think he might have said was a kitchen window. He said they would all be shot. He told me he could get out of the house through a window which the latch would close when the window was closed. He said as you close the window the latch drops down making it look as if the window had never been opened.I got very upset and insisted that he did not mention it again.Jeremy did not mention to me about killing his family until Tuesday 6th August 1985.I was at my home in Lewisham when Jeremy phoned me about 10pm.He said to me ‘ Hi honey’ I’ve just phoned up to ask how you are. I said to him I have had a wonderful day at work and that I was really happy and I wanted to make him happy. I asked him how his day had been and he said ‘ As best as can be expected’ as he had spent all day on the tractor; …???… it had been sunny and he had spent all day inside. I assume that he meant he was inside the cab of the tractor all day.I said to him ‘you sound pissed off’. He said I have been thinking on the tractor and the crime will have to be tonight or never. I told him not to be so stupid and that he was only saying this because he had had a bad day on the tractor. He also told me that he had only just got back from work and had had supper with his parents and Sheila and the twins and that was why he late in phoning me.

[Adam]

What bits are wrong. Or all of it ?

[lookout]

Lie. If true: Julie should have been prosecuted for accessory to murder - along with her other crimes.

I'll say,Alias. Also the police knowing that she had a previous record for fraud and theft,which they covered up for by way of a bribe via the NOTW. Commonly known as bribery and corruption.

[Adam]

In the early hours of the morning, I have since found out from a friend of mine, Susan Battersby who was with me then, it was about 3:15am, I was woken up by another house mate Douglas Dale who told me that Jeremy was on the telephone. I got out of bed and went to the phone on the landing and said hello. I felt very dozy and I suppose I was only half awake. He said everything is going well, not to worry there is something wrong at the farm.I told him sleepily to go back to bed and he said bye honey I love you lots. I then put the phone down. I particularly remember the phrase ‘everything is going well’ I then got into bed and laid there for a few minutes when I suddenly came to my senses and realised what he had said.

[susan]

Hi lookout  yes Jeremy had no outgoings at all just a little food shopping for when Julie came to stay and of course his social life for him and Julie. Everything was funded by Nevill included fuel to run his car/insurance/road tax.  His wage was £170 per week and he had an income from his shares in the caravan park not a bad set up for a young lad of 24.  He had Grannie Speakmans money to look forward to and she was very old and frail so he was in no rush for his parents money that would just appreciate over the years.

[Adam]

Some of this is true. The phone call definatly happened.

[Adam]

How would Mugford know about the window ?

[Alias]

How would Mugford know about the window ?

She had seen Jeemy use that entrance at some occasion?

Why did the EP need 32 sessions with Julie to get her story together? 32 is a lot, probably more than a full week´s  work.

[susan]

lookout what a great pity on the day of the murders at WHF Julie admitted she knew he was going to carry out the murders on that evening why oh why did she not warn the family and get Sheila and the boys out of the house and Nevill could have been waiting for him with the police all those lives could have been saved and she would not have had to identify those little boys in the mortuary.  Jeremy would have been arrested wearing his wetsuit and gloves and June could have taken her bike back and Julie would still have criminal charges brought against her or maybe they would have been lenient with her for alerting the police and she could still have sold her story.  Everything would have turned out the same other than the whole family would have lived.

[lookout]

Some of this is true. The phone call definatly happened.

Only some of it ?? Meaning the majority of what you're saying,,isn't ! Very selective in your processing.

[Adam]

lookout what a great pity on the day of the murders at WHF Julie admitted she knew he was going to carry out the murders on that evening why oh why did she not warn the family and get Sheila and the boys out of the house and Nevill could have been waiting for him with the police all those lives could have been saved and she would not have had to identify those little boys in the mortuary.  Jeremy would have been arrested wearing his wetsuit and gloves and June could have taken her bike back and Julie would still have criminal charges brought against her or maybe they would have been lenient with her for alerting the police and she could still have sold her story.  Everything would have turned out the same other than the whole family would have lived.

She did not know. She said herself she did not think Jeremy was serious.

In a TV interview she said Jeremy liked to say things to shock people.

[susan]

Alias it was common knowledge that Jeremy and Sheila often accessed the farm through a window no big deal they did not have a key.