The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[maggie]

How can I check things I read ?

I'm sure you know what I'm saying Adam.
Can you remember where you read about Jeremy not speaking to June for years? Would love to know .

[Adam]

Adam you may recall you were told two days ago by a senior member of this forum that the police approached Julie about the theft at the caravan park plus you are forgetting to mention her cheque book fraud, drug dealing very serious crimes I may add  yet was she prosecuted for these crimes no she was not.I could go through your posts again and direct you to it but I do not have the will

Didn't Jeremy deal in drugs ?  Apparently he was under survilance.

Was Julie dealing cannibis at college ? Hardly scarface.

[susan]

Alias  I agree lets all love one another.  Make love not war is my motto

[Adam]

I'm sure you know what I'm saying Adam.
Can you remember where you read about Jeremy not speaking to June for years? Would love to know .

For the last time, Mary Mugford testified this in court.

I read it in Wilkes book. I believe it & do not think the book would lie about what was said in court.

Or are Mugford or Wilkes lying ? Or both.

[Alias]

For the last time, Mary Mugford testified this in court.

I read it in Wilkes book. I believe it & do not think the book would lie about what was said in court.

Or are Mugford or Wilkes lying ? Or both.

I have learned that you should not believe everything you read in books or newspapers. Is there any way to find a transscript of her testimony?
I will try to find it, but not quite sure where to look.

[maggie]

For the last time, Mary Mugford testified this in court.

I read it in Wilkes book. I believe it & do not think the book would lie about what was said in court.

Or are Mugford or Wilkes lying ? Or both.

I read Wikes' s book but don't remember him ststing that. Maybe when he was younger?

[Adam]

I have learned that you should not believe everything you read in books or newspapers. Is there any way to find a transscript of her testimony?
I will try to find it, but not quite sure where to look.

Good luck.

I am sure an investigative author was able to find it prior to writing a 5 star book.

[Alias]

Good luck.

I am sure an investigative author was able to find it prior to writing a 5 star book.

We don´t have her testimony transcribed here in Hartley´s (excellent) thread in the archives.
I think that authors sometimes exaggerate to "sex things up", it is a common occurrence.

[maggie]

I read Wikes' s book but don't remember him ststing that. Maybe when he was younger?

I am sure Jeremy took his friends to meet Nevill and June and Julie spent time at WHF, june lent him her bike for Julie, they spent one Christmas day with Jeremy and Susette Ford, Brett Collins went to WHF with Jeremy to meet his parents so when was the rift between them?

[Jane]

Jeremy was very unconvincing in court. The judge telling him to speak up and repeat things. Perhaps he was lying & everyone else telling the truth.

The prosecution closing speech highlighted that Mugford was much more believable. The jury believed Mugford.

But does it NECESSARILY make Jeremy wrong and Julie right OR did she simply use tears to greater effect?

[maggie]

We don´t have her testimony transcribed here in Hartley´s (excellent) thread in the archives.
I think that authors sometimes exaggerate to "sex things up", it is a common occurrence.

Hi Alias, I read Wilkes in the summer, sure I would have remembered if he stated as fact that Jeremy hadn't spoken to June for years. I shall have to look later. 

[Alias]

I am sure Jeremy took his friends to meet Nevill and June and Julie spent time at WHF, june lent him her bike for Julie, they spent one Christmas day with Jeremy and Susette Ford, Brett Collins went to WHF with Jeremy to meet his parents so when was the rift between them?

It sounds impossible they did not talk to each other for two years. Sorry, I don´t believe it. They would have had to at least talk about practical things regarding the farm.

[Jane]

Zzz

15, 20. Either way it is a long time.

If a poster has the courtesy to apologize to you for a misunderstanding, it would go a long way if you were to do the same instead of just writing something which denotes boredom, don't you think

[Adam]

Quote: Mary Mugford.

Jeremy hated his mother & blamed her for turning Sheila mad. He resented her loving the twins more than him. Jeremy disliked his mother intensely & he was more affectionate to me. He used to call me mummy all the time. He offered me his mothers car just after the shooting. He was going to keep no momentoes & he wanted to sell everything.

Jeremy resented his mother because she sent him to boarding school. He never forgave her for that. Apparently she was a religious maniac. Jeremy told me June was thinking of changing her will in favour of the twins. Jeremy never spoke to his mother & she never showed any affection to him.

Said in court.

[Jane]

For the last time, Mary Mugford testified this in court.

I read it in Wilkes book. I believe it & do not think the book would lie about what was said in court.

Or are Mugford or Wilkes lying ? Or both.

If the author was quoting, how would they be able to ascertain truth from lie?