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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #1605 on: December 14, 2013, 03:21:PM »
In my scenario he shot June & the twins in bed. Then beat up a man who had been shot 5 times. Why did he need help ?

Because he had to control Sheila, I don´t buy that she slept through it all and let herself be shot without the slightest resistance. That does not fly with me.

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« Reply #1606 on: December 14, 2013, 03:23:PM »
Its not raining here and I just did a walk - and guess what its still groundhog day ;D Adam and Steve against the girls.

I would just like to say that the mention of the Will and that being the motive to me makes no sense - they were not the royal family for goodness sake . What else would they expect except for the assets to be split between both of them. That's what happens.And any way I just done see it as reason enough to kill your whole family ( otherwise there would be hundreds of such murders) . But if you see the evidence of SB illness and the indescribable things she said about her sons (independent statements by people who knew her) then there ,you can see not a motive ( because madness does not need a motive) but a definite build up to a very sad moment.

Psychiatrists consulted by the defence all said Sheila was not capable of such a murderous rampage.

People said Sheila looked happy on her last day.

We only have Jeremys word (again) that they discussed fostering that night.
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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #1607 on: December 14, 2013, 03:26:PM »
Because he had to control Sheila, I don´t buy that she slept through it all and let herself be shot without the slightest resistance. That does not fly with me.

She was found in the main bedroom far corner. Maybe she was awake and cowering ? Not sure what was going on. There was a brief struggle & the first bullet fired. She carried on moving so another bullet was fired.

The second bullet killing her instantaneously.
« Last Edit: December 14, 2013, 03:27:PM by Adam »
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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #1608 on: December 14, 2013, 03:26:PM »
Hello lookout I agree mental illness is not talked about freely is it and people suffering from this illness are not getting the support they need and deserve. :(

Where I live , in July a ladys son who was 18 was sectioned into a NHS unit because of violent outbursts . He had not been violent before and they wanted help at home because they were at their wits end. But none was available - so he had to go temporarily into a unit. He suffered from epilepsy as well. 5 weeks later the staff left him unattended in the bath. He died. On top of everything else they now have to raise money to represent themselves at an enquiry. So yes I agree even now these types of illness are extremely difficult to deal with.

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #1609 on: December 14, 2013, 03:27:PM »
Psychiatrists consulted by the defence all said Sheila was not capable of such a murderous rampage.

People said Sheila looked happy on her last day.

We only have Jeremys word (again) that they discussed fostering that night.




They all appear happy,Adam.This is the unpredictability of their illness I'm afraid.They blow hot and cold.

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #1610 on: December 14, 2013, 03:31:PM »
She was found in the main bedroom far corner. Maybe she was awake and cowering ? Not sure what was going on. There was a brief struggle & the first bullet fired. She carried on moving so another bullet was fired.

The second bullet killing her instantaneously.

All the scenarios people come up with regarding Sheila´s death sound implausible to me. No one has been able to come up with something i find plausible with Jeremy as the killer.
Was Jeremy lying flat on his stomach on the floor beside Sheila when he shot her? Can´t see how else.  :o

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« Reply #1611 on: December 14, 2013, 03:32:PM »
Adam wrong again as the investments Nevill had would have increased in value I suspect he was a shrewd business man and the caravan park would have been making a fortune.

Increse or decrease, Jeremy would not inherit until Nevill died.

Nevill would have continued paying for Sheila's expensive flat & the twins schooling. While Jeremy the potential play boy was sitting on a tractor 14 hours a day.
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« Reply #1612 on: December 14, 2013, 03:37:PM »
All the scenarios people come up with regarding Sheila´s death sound implausible to me. No one has been able to come up with something i find plausible with Jeremy as the killer.
Was Jeremy lying flat on his stomach on the floor beside Sheila when he shot her? Can´t see how else.  :o

One of the appeals came up with some interesting new information.

This suggested Sheila was leaning against the bedroom wall when she got shot. The force of the bullets would not have resulted in her ending up flat on her back. Her legs must have been pulled afterwards.
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« Reply #1613 on: December 14, 2013, 03:37:PM »
Increse or decrease, Jeremy would not inherit until Nevill died.

Nevill would have continued paying for Sheila's expensive flat & the twins schooling. While Jeremy the potential play boy was sitting on a tractor 14 hours a day.

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #1614 on: December 14, 2013, 03:38:PM »
Psychiatrists consulted by the defence all said Sheila was not capable of such a murderous rampage.

People said Sheila looked happy on her last day.

We only have Jeremys word (again) that they discussed fostering that night.



But you are only speaking of those consulted. Look at those who review the arts, Who is right and who is wrong. Peoples opinions differ.

People SAID "Sheila looked happy on her last day" but scant hours before she'd attacked a man in such a way he stayed in his car., and again, when she spoke ro her aunt, she sounded withdrawn. I suspect, given she'd just been rejected by her ex husband, was "trapped" -read Fergusons psych report- in a place she hated being- that the latter was closer to the truth. With someone whose temperament was as mercurial as Sheila's, I imagine it would have been difficult to tell from one moment to the next HOW she would be.

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« Reply #1615 on: December 14, 2013, 03:39:PM »
I can cook both you & Susan a meal.





How kind ;D

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« Reply #1616 on: December 14, 2013, 03:39:PM »
One of the appeals came up with some interesting new information.

This suggested Sheila was leaning against the bedroom wall when she got shot. The force of the bullets would not have resulted in her ending up flat on her back. Her legs must have been pulled afterwards.
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« Reply #1617 on: December 14, 2013, 03:40:PM »
Views on the above.
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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #1618 on: December 14, 2013, 03:41:PM »


But you are only speaking of those consulted. Look at those who review the arts, Who is right and who is wrong. Peoples opinions differ.

People SAID "Sheila looked happy on her last day" but scant hours before she'd attacked a man in such a way he stayed in his car., and again, when she spoke ro her aunt, she sounded withdrawn. I suspect, given she'd just been rejected by her ex husband, was "trapped" -read Fergusons psych report- in a place she hated being- that the latter was closer to the truth. With someone whose temperament was as mercurial as Sheila's, I imagine it would have been difficult to tell from one moment to the next HOW she would be.

Nevill & June knew Sheila better than most. They invited her over to stay.

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Re: The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.
« Reply #1619 on: December 14, 2013, 03:43:PM »


But you are only speaking of those consulted. Look at those who review the arts, Who is right and who is wrong. Peoples opinions differ.

People SAID "Sheila looked happy on her last day" but scant hours before she'd attacked a man in such a way he stayed in his car., and again, when she spoke ro her aunt, she sounded withdrawn. I suspect, given she'd just been rejected by her ex husband, was "trapped" -read Fergusons psych report- in a place she hated being- that the latter was closer to the truth. With someone whose temperament was as mercurial as Sheila's, I imagine it would have been difficult to tell from one moment to the next HOW she would be.


Jeremy going over for supper that night meant he could give the police the 'fostering' story.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.