The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Adam]

He was planning the murders for such long time but that never, ever thought about that til he was there wading about killing his closest family.  Give us a break Adam, only a vicious psychopath could carry out such a crime ........ that's why he has to be a psychopath even though proven not to be.  If he's not a psychopath he couldn't have done it, you know that,, you all know that.

People have an image of a psychopath as a Jack Nicholson character saying 'Here's Johnny'.

But they can be very charming. As mentioned Hanratty had many supporters. Even when DNA nailed him his supporters claimed it was contaminated. However the only DNA found was Hanratty's. Robert Napper was never suspected & Churchill said he would find Hitler charming if they ever met.

[Adam]

Only it seems, in your mind. Those who've examined him through the years find no trace of any personality disorder..................and in such confined space as he is in it would be more than difficult to hide nuances which could reveal something other.

The cracks have shown sometimes.

When he lost an appeal Jeremy & other inmates wrote 'Jeremy is innocent' in excrement in Jeremys cell.

[susan]

Adam poor Nevill was beaten with the butt of the rifle when he was dead or near death whilst in a sitting position. Had Jeremy been the murderer why would he waste time heating some type of instrument to inflict burns on Nevill's back after death.  This was an act of contempt in my eyes somebody felt very let down and abandoned.  This is of course my opinion which I am allowed as are you.

[Adam]

Adam poor Nevill was beaten with the butt of the rifle when he was dead or near death whilst in a sitting position. Had Jeremy been the murderer why would he waste time heating some type of instrument to inflict burns on Nevill's back after death.  This was an act of contempt in my eyes somebody felt very let down and abandoned.  This is of course my opinion which I am allowed as are you.

I agree. We are all allowed an opinion.

What a pity you are married, otherwise I would cook you a meal.

[Jane]

People have an image of a psychopath as a Jack Nicholson character saying 'Here's Johnny'.

But they can be very charming. As mentioned Hanratty had many supporters. Even when DNA nailed him his supporters claimed it was contaminated. However the only DNA found was Hanratty's. Robert Napper was never suspected & Churchill said he would find Hitler charming if they ever met.

Indeed they can. However, what they can voice, but IMO, NOT feel, is emotion, so whatever words are being said there is a "deadness" there.

[Adam]

There was also one window used as a cat flap I believe. The whole family were sitting ducks as Jeremy must have realized. The intolerable dreariness of his weekday existence,mitigated only by intermittent spliffs of cannabis pushed him over the edge as he realized a way out of his predicament,where fear of failing Nevill was the real reason,concealed by the pretence that he was putting them all out of their own misery. Jeremy yearned for a fresh start,which meant destroying everything in his wake. If he could have burned Nevill and June's bodies on the pyre with the bedding and the carpets he would have..

In court a will of Nevill's was shown.

It basically said Jeremy would get his inheritance if he had earnt it. That could mean another 20 years of 14 hour days. Even then he would have to share the will with Sheila & the twins, who had nothing on the farm.

As mentioned June was also thinking about changing her will to give the twins more.

[Alias]

People have an image of a psychopath as a Jack Nicholson character saying 'Here's Johnny'.

But they can be very charming. As mentioned Hanratty had many supporters. Even when DNA nailed him his supporters claimed it was contaminated. However the only DNA found was Hanratty's. Robert Napper was never suspected & Churchill said he would find Hitler charming if they ever met.

This crime has the hallmarks of a rage killing, not of calculated murders for gain by a psychopath.

[Jane]

The cracks have shown sometimes.

When he lost an appeal Jeremy & other inmates wrote 'Jeremy is innocent' in excrement in Jeremys cell.

Cracks WILL show..........in us all. It's what makes us human.

[Alias]

Correct. Things do not always go to plan. Things are missed. Nevill put up a fight. Sheila had to be shot twice.

Did the twins need to be shot eight times all in all?

[Jane]

In court a will of Nevill's was shown.

It basically said Jeremy would get his inheritance if he had earnt it. That could mean another 20 years of 14 hour days. Even then he would have to share the will with Sheila & the twins, who had nothing on the farm.

As mentioned June was also thinking about changing her will to give the twins more.

I believe that will to have been drawn up whilst Jeremy was still a minor. As an adult he would no longer have been subjected to that stricture.

[susan]

Adam two days ago you said Jeremy would have to graft for another 15 years now it has jumped to 20.  Nevill at 61 you describe as a frail old man now you are saying he would go on farming till he was 81 make your mind up.

[Adam]

Did the twins need to be shot eight times all in all?

It makes it look like a rage killing. Or perhaps it was.

Let's ask Jeremy.

[Adam]

Adam two days ago you said Jeremy would have to graft for another 15 years now it has jumped to 20.  Nevill at 61 you describe as a frail old man now you are saying he would go on farming till he was 81 make your mind up.

I said at 61 both Nevill & June would want a bedroom phone. At 21,  I wanted a bedroom phone !

When did I mention 15 years ?

[Adam]

I believe that will to have been drawn up whilst Jeremy was still a minor. As an adult he would no longer have been subjected to that stricture.

Why was it shown it court if it was so outdated ?

Jeremy had said he had seen the wills. Barbara Wilson saying Nevill wanted the safe key moved.

[Alias]

It makes it look like a rage killing. Or perhaps it was.

Let's ask Jeremy.

I think he might not know. Anyway, he is being described as a cold, calculating murderer who had planned to wipe his entire family off the face of the earth. He would have known he would have to reload the rifle  (BTW, that rifle was an odd choice for a somewhat experienced shooter), why "waste" so many bullets on two sleeping little boys - I don´t get it!