The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Jan]

I would if you made one.

I had the courage to.

Sorry just had to say before I sign off tonight - courage is not posting on a forum - it is for people who fight for our country and the public service people like , yes the police , most of who do a fantastic job. so no I dont think you writing a scenario is courageous, and any way I am not THAT scary. ( Except perhaps to the people who work for me) 

[Adam]

But I explained why I would not do that . I am not as clever as you

You don't need to be clever to make a scenario.

[Jane]

You don't need to be clever to make a scenario.

No Adam, you're quite correct. YOU don't.

[grahameb]

You don't need to be clever to make a scenario.

Yes you've demonstrated that.

[Adam]

Yes you've demonstrated that.

My scenario was a common sense one in my opinion.

Neville would run away from a fit Jeremy (shot on stairs). Jeremy could & would brutally beat Neville in the kitchen ( no more bullets). Then have time to reload. The twins were asleep & June was dying. Sheila was either cowering in the bedroom, or lead there.

No phone calls were made.

[Jan]

ok - so as there was no forensic evidence that JB did it - why did he just not make it look like a burglary and keep quiet? why alert the police by a false phone call? Because they may have been brave and go in straight away to try and save the children . then the times of deaths would have been accurately recorded. But  of course you believe the official reports of TOD as 8am are false. Because it blows your theory out of the water. Again if he did do it why were the police convinced it was murder suicide ? Even to me it is pretty obvious the picture of the body with the gun was staged - so why were they so convinced that they argued with the family and would not accept their theory for so long?

[Adam]

ok - so as there was no forensic evidence that JB did it - why did he just not make it look like a burglary and keep quiet? why alert the police by a false phone call? Because they may have been brave and go in straight away to try and save the children . then the times of deaths would have been accurately recorded. But  of course you believe the official reports of TOD as 8am are false. Because it blows your theory out of the water. Again if he did do it why were the police convinced it was murder suicide ? Even to me it is pretty obvious the picture of the body with the gun was staged - so why were they so convinced that they argued with the family and would not accept their theory for so long?

Forensic ? He shot people. The carpets were removed. What forensics ?

Burglary ? Bit extreme that turning into a massacre with women & children being shot.

The police phone call has been discussed before. It is not a bad idea. Neville phoned Jeremy at home, Sheila has gone crazy, she is nutter,  arriving after the police etc.

Time of deaths ? Obviously before 8am.

The police made mistakes early on but had the guts to admit it and change direction.

[grahameb]

My scenario was a common sense one in my opinion.

Neville would run away from a fit Jeremy (shot on stairs). Jeremy could & would brutally beat Neville in the kitchen ( no more bullets). Then have time to reload. The twins were asleep & June was dying. Sheila was either cowering in the bedroom, or lead there.

No phone calls were made.

Yes you are right. Only Agatha Christie could write a better senario.

[grahameb]

Forensic ? He shot people. The carpets were removed. What forensics ?

Burglary ? Bit extreme that turning into a massacre with women & children being shot.

The police phone call has been discussed before. It is not a bad idea. Neville phoned Jeremy at home, Sheila has gone crazy, she is nutter,  arriving after the police etc.

Time of deaths ? Obviously before 8am.

The police made mistakes early on but had the guts to admit it and change direction.

That contradicts Dr. Craig, who timed the deaths at 8am.

[mike tesko]

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[Jan]

perhaps that is why he nearly got away with the crime. It was nearly the perfect murder ( except for him blabbing  ). Such a good well thought out and planned scene. OR that is what actually happened. And he was telling the truth.

Also about your comment about the children - it has been known in  burglary that OAPs get killed as well which is just as senseless - so don't really understand your argument there .

The most logical reason in all of this for the children to be killed is  that SB had a manic episode .And having read up on her history I sadly still believe that's what happened.

[Alias]

Adam why do you have to be sarcastic so much make your point and we will either agree or disagree.  You seem to have a personal problem with Jeremy did you know him or what.  No point in you trying to solve this case he was found GUILTY in a Court of Law and is serving life in prison what more do you want.  You told me you came on this forum with an open mind I have yet to see that.

I like this post.

[Alias]

My scenario was a common sense one in my opinion.

Neville would run away from a fit Jeremy (shot on stairs). Jeremy could & would brutally beat Neville in the kitchen ( no more bullets). Then have time to reload. The twins were asleep & June was dying. Sheila was either cowering in the bedroom, or lead there.

No phone calls were made.

My "scenario" makes as much sense as yours (more actually, a little bit

[susan]

Alias don't think Adam like my post he never responded

[susan]

Morning Grahame

HaHaHa I am falling off the chair laughing.  You not think Adam's scenario is accurate Agatha Christie indeed