The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Adam]

Adam

you never answered my question about why the police waited for HOURS outside if there was absolutely no movement and no sound except for the dog ( in your view they were all dead) When they knew about two young children in the house . Remember this was before the days of H&S assesments. If that had been your family inside how would you have felt about that?

The police had to wait for the raid team.

The raid team went in when there was daylight.

[Adam]

jansus he has never answered many of my questions i.e. what evidence came to light to make EP change their mind about 4 murders one suicide to 5 murders I have asked him that three times I have answered everyone of his posts but he is very selective which posts he responds to.

I did answer it. Straight away.  Go back  and check.

[Jan]

Apart from the scruffy individual seen walking across a field, then I haven't heard of anyone else in the vicinity.

but if the farm was not surrounded then how did they know no one else was about? I was just reading that very interesting thread about the threats the family had received and that reports about the  inside locked room. In normal circumstances if a case became murder the police would look at anyone with a motive -it seems that the JB scenario was the only one they considered . Now if I believed the house was totally secure - then fair enough - but I am not sure of any of their logs now. The family just handed  it to them on a plate , and covered up the fact they had got rid of nearly all forensics.

[Adam]

Yes. 28 years worth.

Jeremy had the best lawyers available. Straight away they knew it was going to be an extremley difficult case to win.

[Adam]

but if the farm was not surrounded then how did they know no one else was about? I was just reading that very interesting thread about the threats the family had received and that reports about the  inside locked room. In normal circumstances if a case became murder the police would look at anyone with a motive -it seems that the JB scenario was the only one they considered . Now if I believed the house was totally secure - then fair enough - but I am not sure of any of their logs now. The family just handed  it to them on a plate , and covered up the fact they had got rid of nearly all forensics.

But Neville rang Jeremy saying Sheila has gone crazy and had got the gun.

[Jan]

The police had to wait for the raid team.

The raid team went in when there was daylight.

wow. Even though they knew guns may be involved at 3.26 ( the first phone log) .Sorry that seems incredible to me. All those burly policemen and those two poor souls inside. I am sorry don't buy that.

[Jane]

But Neville rang Jeremy saying Sheila has gone crazy and had got the gun.

Adam! Methinks you're extracting urine. ENOUGH!!!!!

[Jan]

But Neville rang Jeremy saying Sheila has gone crazy and had got the gun.

?? you said he did not. Unlike you I am considering all angles. Like I said I am trying to keep an open mind

[susan]

Adam I am sorry to disagree I don't think Jeremy's Defence Team thought for one moment they had a difficult case to win as they did not know what had been going on behind the scenes and they knew that no forensic evidence existed and let us not forget it was not a majority verdict so they were not all as convinced as you.

[Adam]

?? you said he did not. Unlike you I am considering all angles. Like I said I am trying to keep an open mind

I agree that Jeremy is saying it. He has been saying it for 28 years.

[Jan]

Adam! Methinks you're extracting urine. ENOUGH!!!!!

Don't worry I am girding! I have always been honest about my reason for being on the forum. I will always keep an open mind - But I know which way I am more inclined to believe. Unlike some others whos motives seem to be to just wind up others.

[Adam]

Adam I am sorry to disagree I don't think Jeremy's Defence Team thought for one moment they had a difficult case to win as they did not know what had been going on behind the scenes and they knew that no forensic evidence existed and let us not forget it was not a majority verdict so they were not all as convinced as you.

Try reading the best reviewed current book about the case.

The defence knew it would be difficult.

[Jan]

I agree that Jeremy is saying it. He has been saying it for 28 years.

wonder why. In your scenario its not true . His father would have been dead and could not of made the call - so why bother to say it? That's you not JB.

[Jane]

Don't worry I am girding! I have always been honest about my reason for being on the forum. I will always keep an open mind - But I know which way I am more inclined to believe. Unlike some others whos motives seem to be to just wind up others.

Sorry Jansus, it wasn't in any way directed at you. I can tell the difference between an open mind and a wind up :D :D :D

[Jan]

Adam I am sorry to disagree I don't think Jeremy's Defence Team thought for one moment they had a difficult case to win as they did not know what had been going on behind the scenes and they knew that no forensic evidence existed and let us not forget it was not a majority verdict so they were not all as convinced as you.

Also I guess this is in the days before the CPS so things were very different then( not sure if better or worse really? )