The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[susan]

Adam  I did not watch the recent documentary but from what I hear and this is from Jeremy guilty it was a total shambles and I am glad I did not watch it along with your youtube videos

[Adam]

Hello Adam

Are you saying that Sheila was alive in WHF when the police arrived on the scene with Jeremy sat in the back of the car looking calm

Yes, it was not the dog barking. It was Sheila.

[Adam]

Adam  I did not watch the recent documentary but from what I hear and this is from Jeremy guilty it was a total shambles and I am glad I did not watch it along with your youtube videos

It was a poor documentary. But had a couple of interesting facts.

Barbara Wilson was interviewed. She has no reason to lie.

[susan]

Yippee Adam knew I would win you round in the end now we are wearing the same teeshirts

[Nickos]

No, that's what you would do with the full benefit of hindsight!!

No, that's what I would do if it happened. I would simply not let anyone (never mind someone emotionally disturbed) alone with a loaded gun - not for a second. it's almost impossible to believe anyone would including yourself.

Apologies for being so direct, but would you leave someone alone with a gun with other loved ones in the house and go off to make phone calls at 3am 

Of course it's NOT irrelevant that there is no evidence to prove that the calls did NOT take place. If all documents were released, who knows what could be proven?

I agree that all documents should be released. But I am not convinced they will prove JB's innocence, but they may allow the defense to use a technicality.

JB's innocence and botched up paperwork are two very different things.

It's hard to win when the other side is playing with a loaded deck. I'd have thought the guilty side would be asking for ALL evidence/documents to be released to the defence, after-all if he is guilty, there will be nothing in there of any use, there will be no case to argue, you can all re-tighten your already smug smiles, gloat until your hearts are content and we can ask the last person on the forum to switch off the lights!!

You sound upset (I do not have a smug smile or am gloating), but the defense had a pretty good set of cards to start with. They just didn't play them properly - hardly the fault of the prosecution.

[Jane]

Barbara Wilson knew them both. It is the opinion of someone who knew both of them quite well.

Why then would she initially say SUCH complimentary things about Jeremy, make 2 statements, ages apart, in which his name isn't mentioned, THEN give a totally polarized opinion in which it seem she's speaking about a different person.

[Jane]

Yes, it was not the dog barking. It was Sheila.

And you know this HOW???

[Nickos]

That makes it sound like you do believe it will happen after he's dead.  Possibly after we're all dead.  Sounds like you harbour some doubts about guilt to me.

Roch Index 90 - this leaves some doubt, but very little.

Enough belief for me to have convicted at trial.

[Adam]

The pathologist in court testified that the first bullet would have -

Stunned Sheila.

Caused a lot of bleeding.

Sheila would have been disabled by the shock of the injury.

Sheila would have been disabled by the pain of the injury.

Sheila would not be able to walk up & down the stairs after getting the first bullet.

[HMEssex]

The engaged phone line was cleared. Sheila was in there,   making barking noises that sounded very similar to the family dog found underneath the bed.

How do you know they were similar?  Did you know Crispy?

[susan]

Adam  I have been told that the account Barbara Wilson gave was so different to her two previous statements strange but true as I said I did not watch it as I knew they would be horrible about Jeremy and I will not read any books that are horrible about Jeremy

[Nickos]

And you know this HOW???

Mike T told us!! 

[Adam]

Everyone. Sheila received the first and second bullet in the same room. The bullets were probably fired in quick succession.

She did not walk up the stairs after the raid team entered the house.

Let us all be sensible.

[susan]

HaHaHa HMEssex did Adam know Crispy he must have done

[Adam]

The pathologist in court testified that the first bullet would have -

Stunned Sheila.

Caused a lot of bleeding.

Sheila would have been disabled by the shock of the injury.

Sheila would have been disabled by the pain of the injury.

Sheila would not be able to walk up & down the stairs after getting the first bullet.