The bedroom phone, phone calls & Neville.

[Jane]

Where did you get this information ? The five members in the house that night are dead. The trial brought up the phone location.

There had been storms two months earlier. But surely Neville & June would have put the working bedroom phone back in the bedroom by now.  At 61, neither of them would want to be running up & down the stairs of a big house to make & receive calls.

61 is hardly 81 and June still rode a bike. The phone can hardly be said to have been hidden, all it would have taken was someone to have picked up the papers to look at/throw out/ search for something.

[Adam]

That being the case,Jeremy didn't,or hadn't bothered to do any wiping,etc after himself. The table where the phone was with someones bloodied fingers,,the rifle,,the silencer. He did NOT retrace his steps,.,so he wasn't the murderer,as murderers always leave clues behind,no matter what. Even a droplet of sweat,fibres from clothing,all manner of clues,,but nothing.
To make matters worse anyway,no time of death was ever recorded,,no scrapings from under the fingernails taken and countless other unrecorded omissions.

Jeremy said he got the impression Neville was injured when he phoned. So why wasn't any blood found on the phone ?

Neville had a fractured jaw, damaged teeth, neck & larynx. The pathologist said he would have difficulty speaking.

[Jane]

Jeremy said he got the impression Neville was injured when he phoned. So why wasn't any blood found on the phone.

Neville had a fractured jaw, damaged teeth, neck & larynx. The pathologist said he would have difficulty speaking.

Having the impression that....................is hardly the same thing as seeing that......................

[susan]

Hello Adam I was not aware that Jeremy said he thought Ralph was injured when he phoned him please direct me to where this is documented as I have missed it.  Secondly Ralph phoned Jeremy before he was injured. I do as you tell me and research documents on the forum.

[Adam]

61 is hardly 81 and June still rode a bike. The phone can hardly be said to have been hidden, all it would have taken was someone to have picked up the papers to look at/throw out/ search for something.

Why buy a phone for the bedroom & not put it there ?

Twenty eight years ago, people of 61 would have been less fit.

[Adam]

Hello Adam I was not aware that Jeremy said he thought Ralph was injured when he phoned him please direct me to where this is documented as I have missed it.  Secondly Ralph phoned Jeremy before he was injured. I do as you tell me and research documents on the forum.

Youtube - ' Jeremy Bamber, the night he came home'.

You will not enjoy it.

[susan]

Adam 28 years ago people would have been much fitter than they are now they had to work much harder for a start especially farmers they did not have the help of the machinery they have now they were much more active stop making inferences that Ralph Bamber was not a fit man bet he took those stairs two at a time.

[susan]

Adam thanks for telling me I wont watch it then no point in watching anything I will not enjoy

[Adam]

Adam 28 years ago people would have been much fitter than they are now they had to work much harder for a start especially farmers they did not have the help of the machinery they have now they were much more active stop making inferences that Ralph Bamber was not a fit man bet he took those stairs two at a time.

Then why buy a bedroom phone ? June was not a farmer.

It was a big house. I would have had a phone in the bedroom. So not sure why it was not there on the night. The kitchen phone worked.

[Adam]

Adam thanks for telling me I wont watch it then no point in watching anything I will not enjoy

Scary music.

There are lots of supportive Youtube videos, including some from Mike Tesco.

[susan]

Adam I will go and watch Mike's video as I know I will enjoy them.

[Adam]

Adam I will go and watch Mike's video as I know I will enjoy them.

I have watched them all.

'Jeremy Bamber is innocent' & 'Jeremy Bamber, birthday behind bars' has the best music in my opinion.

[susan]

Adam  I will report back to you

[Jan]

there were usually three phones at White House Farm; a cream dial phone in the master bedroom; a blue digital dial one in the upstairs office; and a cordless phone which was kept in the kitchen. There was also another phone at the Farm that was a ‘fawn’ colour and it also had a digital key pad and it is unclear where this phone was usually kept although it was found in the kitchen under some magazines.

There had been a thunderstorm which had caused damage to the phone system and an engineer called Mr Pike made a statement that he took away the cordless phone and that he did not leave a replacement. The farm secretary Mrs Wilson had been on holiday and was not entirely sure where the phones were moved to as a result of this storm. Nevertheless Mrs Jean Bouttell testified in court that the phones had gone wrong so many times in the past year that she described it as “musical phones” when asked in court simply because the phones were moved around so frequently by the Bamber Family. She said it was common practice for the cream phone from the bedroom to be moved down into the kitchen

[Jan]

So was he a strapping man too much for Sheila to over come? Or a poor weak old fragile pensioner?